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gergroy said:
Kasz216 said:

Who won this debate is largely going to boil down to how much people are upset at Biden's constant interruptions.  I think they both did pretty poorly.

Paul Ryan's biggest weakness was that he didn't really repeat things too often in the same question. He said "Not in the east" then when Biden interrupted, didn't re mention the fact that what Biden was talking about wasn't true in the east again. Assuming people either got that from his original statement or already knew it.

Biden almost really walked into it when he mentioned his family. For a second it looked like he was going to lie again about how his family died, like he did back when he had much less national media on him and there weren't fact checkers. If he would of did that... it would of been disastrous.


his family died in a car accident right?  has he said they died a different way before?


No, he said they died in a car accident.  Years later he just said they were killed by a drunk driver.

When in reality the police investigation showed that not only was the driver not drunk, but it was Joe Biden's wife who was at fault for the accident.

Source article isn't up but...

"

Since his vice presidential nomination, Joe Biden's 2007 statement that a "guy who allegedly ... drank his lunch" and drove the truck that struck and killed his first wife and daughter has gained national media traction.

Alcohol didn't play a role in the 1972 crash, investigators found. But as recently as last week, the syndicated TV show Inside Edition aired a clip from 2001 of Biden describing the accident to an audience at the University of Delaware and saying the truck driver "stopped to drink instead of drive."

The senator's statements don't jibe with news and law enforcement reports from the time, which cleared driver Curtis C. Dunn, who died in 1999, of wrongdoing.

"To see it coming from [Biden's] mouth, I just burst into tears," Dunn's daughter, Glasgow resident Pamela Hamill, 44, said Wednesday. "My dad was always there for us. Now we feel like we should be there for him because he's not here to defend himself."

Biden spokesman David Wade said Wednesday that the senator "fully accepts the Dunn family's word that these rumors were false."  "

 

http://advanceindiana.blogspot.com/2008/09/delaware-newspaper-calls-out-biden-from.html