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Kasz216 said:
Something to consider, expectations for Biden are very low.

Joe Biden actually has a lower approval rating then Paul Ryan.

http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-pn-poll-ryan-biden-debate-20121010,0,7966703.story


Like the article says, this vp debate is very similar to cheny vs edwards.  If biden merely manages to hold his own in this debate, he will be declared the winner just because everybodies expectations are so low.

another point to consider here is Ryan hasnt actually debated anybody before.  He may be a wonk, but wonks dont do well in debates.