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VGKing on 09 October 2012
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Chandler said:
o_O.Q said:
Chandler said:


No, I'm saying that they actively tried to avoid 2D games in order to differentiate themselves from the Mega Drive and the SNES. Them now doing a complete 180 and basically saying "Look, this is what Playstation is all about, this is how our biggest faces battle it out Playstation style. It's 2D btw." IS a travesty. And if you don't think my opinion doesn't add anything I suggest you read the OP one more time.

 

The characters used in this game going under the names of Raiden and Dante do not deserve to be listed under the PS2 banner and I have no idea what a "colonel radec" or "fat princess" is. I have owned every single playstation console or handheld and if even I don't know all the characters that's not really a good sign for the broad appeal the game needs to be a success.

"I'm saying that they actively tried to avoid 2D games in order to differentiate themselves from the Mega Drive and the SNES."

???

i thought the document you posted reffers to ps2 and ps3 wouldn't that then apply to the gamecube and the wii?

( which would be weird as i remember the gamecube being home to mostly 3d experiences but whatever )


"Them now doing a complete 180"

ah so its only now that they've embraced 2d gameplay?

i'm guessing one of their biggest franchises this gen lbp doesn't really count?

but regardless you're the only person i've seen so far raise this issue against the game so whats the problem? 

 

"The characters used in this game going under the names of Raiden and Dante do not deserve to be listed under the PS2 banner"

the franchises they're from originated on ps2... which is why i listed them as such

 

" I have no idea what a "colonel radec" or "fat princess" is."

you haven't played killzone similarly to how even though i was solely a nintendo fan up until the gamecube i hadn't played ice climbers so i had no idea who they werein melee...

the same goes for game and watch, roy, marth etc etc etc yet they were still in the roster 

 

"I have owned every single playstation console or handheld and if even I don't know all the characters that's not really a good sign for the broad appeal the game needs to be a success."

keeping in mind that the aforementioned third party characters are outside of their control what would you suggest the dev team do to allay your fears?

Sony, SCEA specifically, discouraged 2D games from the very first day they entered the industry. The document I linked was just a quick google copy and paste.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=77553

 

It's not about them "now" doing a 180, of course there were a few other 2D games. It's just really, really, really funny that they practically sum up their entire history with a kind of game they actively discouraged for over a decade.

 

Yeah, the SSB games also had characters most people didn't know. The difference is, those characters were additions to the important faces and not front and center like they are in PSABR. SSB would be just as shitty with just Marth, Pepe and Nana, Lucas or Olimar and characters like Mario, Link, Samus, Fox, Donkey Kong missing. Sadly, I'm not the only person that thinks this way and even if I were, that doesn't automatically render my opinion false.

 

The dev team can do nothing against third parties not cooperating. But this shows Sony's problem really well. They are so dependant on third parties. What defined them and what people associate with Playstation all those years didn't belong to them in the first place. They are just the hardware manufacturer.

Exactly. But this gen with the PS3, some of their biggest characters are 1st party. Nathan Drake and Sackboy are perfect examples.

Don't you think its smart of Sony to try and make these no-name characters bigger? I think some characters there have some huge potential. Fat Princess is one of them.