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spaceguy on 05 October 2012
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Kasz216 said:
spaceguy said:
Kasz216 said:
Max King of the Wild said:
That would make a lot of sense Kaz. I know my Target store (Ultra low volume) hires about 20 or so seasonal workers in september till jan


Yeah turns out that's the case.   The Seasonally adjusted unemployment rate is actually still 8.1%. 

 

 

Still wouldn't be surprised to see the job numbers move up though.

Afterall, goverment hiring was on an increase too last month for the first time in a long time.

either way we are in a recovery. If republicans would have voted for the jobs bill we would be well under that by now. People seem to forget the 2 years of obstruction. Could obama done more? yes. Regardless of that, Obama will win off of these numbers and lets hope he gets the house back as well. then we can start talking about third party. LOL

Yeah I wouldn't say it matters, lack of seasonal adjusting hurts Obama just as much as it helps him (theoretically).  Just worth pointing out since it's the kind of thing that can cofuse people.

 

As for the jobs bill helping the economy... not really going to do anything... Romney's plans are unlikely to help either.

The problem is, people are trying to apply giant macroeconomic forumla's onto a problem that's not normal.  At the moment we're at a stiuation where buisnesses won't hire until there is an increase in real demand... and there won't be an increase in real demand until buisnesses start hiring. 

The Jobs bill and any other kind of stimulus program... companies will just collect there profits and hold off hiring anyone knowing it'd be more trouble then it's worth because we can't run deficits forever.

The scary part is, there is a LOT indication there is a of hidden inflation out there.  Which would mean we were in a case of Stagflation... and believe me, you espeically wouldn't like the cure to Stagflation.

 

Infrastructure would put demand back out there. That was a big part of the jops bill. Millionairs would only have to pay I think it was 1/7th of 1% more on tax's on there second million made. Is that enough? no but it would have helped. We are way behind in Infrastructure and those jobs pay good because there union, which means people can pay bills and have disposable money.