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kowenicki said:
DirtyP2002 said:
I have the feeling, and correct me when I am wrong, that Greece and Turkey really do have some awesome fans, but just a hand full of club. Panathinaikos / Olympiakos in Greece and the Gala / Fenerbahce in Turkey. While the Ultras are more spread in Germany, except the corporate clubs (Hoffenheim, Leverkusen, Wolfsburg, Ingolstadt and soon Leipzig).

Austria has some good supporters as well.
Anyway, England lost its touch withtheir supporters


Annnnnyyywayyyy

Perhaps this great support can drive a German league team on to actually win something at some point. 

Its been a while.


and that is coming from a liverpool supporter?

Seriously though, ManCity, Chelsea, Arsenal and pretty much every club in England is now pushed by some multi-billionaire somewhere in the east.
ManCity spend 900 million Euro (!!!) in the past years, while German Clubs just don't do that.

Look at Kagawa and ManU. Dortmund paid 350k Euro 2 years ago. ManU paid 16 million to Dortmund now. ManCity has a higher loss than revenue (!!!). Financial FairPlay will hurt some English clubs, if they actually push that through in 2013.



Imagine not having GamePass on your console...