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dsgrue3 said:

Glad we agree that Obama is detrimental to the US. (The average American scares the hell out of me.)

Never did I imply that. Obama had wrong right ideas when he started, je waas right in many ways. Unfortunately he also had a massive economical burden tacked on his back and the wrong skin coulour for Americans. Tie that with a republican party that essentially refused to do any work in Congress for years (easy to understand as they can only win the next term if the economy stays bad). The inability of Obama to react to criticism added to the situation we have now in the States. Disfunctional politicians everywhere and tons of right wing nuts - it's just interesting to watch as an outsider.