M.U.G.E.N said:
ganoncrotch said:
M.U.G.E.N said:
I am no hardcore ape escape fan but even I knew who Spike was. He was one of the most requested characters when the game announced as well as I recall. I know many who were very happy with his inclusion. If you know anything about ape escape, which is a pretty iconic franchise for PS...you should know him. And since you seem to like wiki pages..here you go
http://apeescape.wikia.com/wiki/Spike
as for Radec...yeah he is very well known. If you even remotely know the KZ franchise you should know who Radec is. He is the best possible choice superbot could have gone with in Killzone. He is also VERY popular in the beta. Fantastic character to play as
Really...if they included someone like Rau from Mark of Kri and you guys said it was an odd choice I would have agreed...but Radec and Spike? LOL
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The Ape escape games have sold just over 3.6million units.... over the course of 8 games over 11 years, the last retail game to come out was in 2005 on the ps2 and it sold 130k units that is on a system with 150million people as an install base at the time meaning less than 1 in every 1000 ps2 owner bothered with the last ape escape game, while you yourself might like the series to "LOL" at people not knowing it is just silly we're part of the 999 of the 1000 people which had you as the person who still liked Ape Escape 7 years ago, See what I'm getting at?
As for Radec 4 games over 8 years and they've sold 7million that is pretty damn good to be honest but still it's not like anyone who hasn't played those game is going to know he is a character from that game, not like say Kirby.... you see him, you might not have played his games but you've a fair idea he is from the Kirby Series. Heh also just noticed how much Killzone has sold in Japan the area vita needs to get a good proper boost of units out there and yeah I doubt anyone there will have the slightest idea who this guy is.
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ughhh...Radec is VERY well known to any KZ fan...and KZ franchise has played a big part for sony this gen. Especially KZ2. Argue all you want...but fact of the matter is KZ is important part of PS..and Radec is one of the most popular characters in the franchise. You are using your own personal knowledge which is lacking severely..as general concensus. Please go read up any reaveal related threads in any popular forum and see how many know Radec. You are grasping at straws now and to be frank it's a tad annoying. Helghans have been in all KZ games (obviously) ..appeared in Uncharted MP...have even appeared in other games like Lost Planet 2. If you are a PS fan...even if you don't know jack about KZ..you should be able to recognize a Helghan...and outside of visari, who would not fit well with this game at all lol...Radec is the most iconic. Again I suggest not letting your own limited knowledge fool you.
I rather not comment on Kirby or any ninty character cuz people might get butt hurt and this will derail the thread.
As for ape escape..ffs...again I use SOTC as an example...it's not all about sales geez. Ape Escape is a very important franchise to Sony. Forget about the sales..the fact that there have been 8 friggin games should tell you that. It won't be the last either. When fans (you know..the guys who this is actually catered to) were discussing possible character inclusions...ape escape came up constantly! I know because I was part of that conversation here, in gaf and few other sites. They were arguing who it should be...Spike, Spectr or a monkey. I believe this series also has an animated series...I need to look that one up.
ps: just saw fillet going on about how even sly is not well known -_- why do I even bother at this point
yeah I think I'm done...let's just agree to disagree
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Sorry just got to get a quick word in.
It actually is about sales. You cant say a franchise/icon is important to Sony if gamers never really took notice by the numbers. You talk about the fans and that this game is considered fan service..........look at the preorders. This is fan service dedicated to thousands........when the game should be dedicated to potential millions. Core fans dont make a profitable game. If you think its okay for Sony to loose money just to pelase those few thousand, then your doing more harm then good as a Sony fan.
This is coming from me, but I am sure I am not alone when I say that roster is full of D-listers and some iconic 3rd party characters that made Sony great in PS1/PS2 days arent in there like Cloud, Crash, Spyro etc. Why they felt Big daddy belonged in this game when both bioshocks sold better on 360 puzzles me (sorry for getting off track with that last comment).
Xbox: Best hardware, Game Pass best value, best BC, more 1st party genres and multiplayer titles.
