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spurgeonryan said:
thranx said:
spurgeonryan said:
How are we just going to "End" illegal immigration? We spent billions upon billions on the border and that has done nothing but cost more money and lives.


Its really not too hard to do, we just have to actually try. Currently Border Patrol Agents hands are very tied in what they can and can't do and were they can and can't operate. All it would take is a wall, some easy surveilance, and actually enforcing the laws we currently and giving the border patrol some teeth. It hasn't happened because peple do not care to do it. CA is a safe haven for illegals, and Arizona is fighting a hard fight against them with the federal government trying to block any progress they make. Fast and Furious has also caused issues down there 9wich funnily enough do not make it to the news). Not sure how Texas and New Mexico do.


I am not sure how tough we can be though. I mean we could be as ruthless as we want, but this is America. Even the rules of war has 1,000's of rules. You cannot do this, you have to ask about that, etc. That is the problem in the wars as well. It seems like we are ruthless barbarians on the news, but when your hands are tied behind your back with every peace treaty, convention, law, regulation, rule, etc it is hard to make anything happen. We are so worried about image that America can actually do nothing. How long before some group was complaining about the wall and our new tactics? This is America and peoples will complain about everything. I doubt there could be any revamped policies on the immigration problem. What is more likely to happen is that they will just make it easier for immigrants to come in and become legal. User our welfare system for half their lives or more and take more jobs.

There is no new laws needed. We have them in place already we just choose not to enforce them. There isn't a need to change anything except enforce the laws we have, we enforce them on the northern border, why not the southern border? Politics is the only reason we have an unsecure border