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richardhutnik said:
dsgrue3 said:

Your personal situation is unique. When one considers the nation as a whole, it is quite clear that Obama's presidency has been a complete failure. Disputing that would be a tough endeavor.

Romney's job creation has been cited as tens of thousands. This is not disputable. This is fact. You cite one company out of hundreds in which Romney invested and then blame him for their failure due to the economic downturn? Wow. Newsflash, he hasn't been with Bain since 1999.

Show a reliable piece of evidence that show exactly how many jobs Romney created.  There are no records from Bain, because Bain was not in the business of creating jobs, just maximizing return on investments, so pretty much any creation of jobs by Romney there was accidental, and not intentional (and he was still paid and owner when Bain was getting companies to lay people off and he did nothing to come up with another way).  And his job creation while governor, wasn't good.   Wall Street Journal said that it is "vexing" trying to show how many jobs Romney created at Bain:

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702303292204577519293959381060.html


 

 

Romney's job create is very much in dispute.  Again, show an article that shows exact numbers.  

And want to discuss failures?  Well, need to compare Obama to the adminstration prior.  Care to point out any successes of the Bush administration?  Well, at least Bush didn't have sexual relations with an intern.  Contrast way the economy was going.  I would need to see evidence that a Romney administration isn't  return to the Bush administration, or at least the Bush administration wasn't that bad.


Bush shouldn't even enter into this discussion, but as you cited his policies for the economic downturn, I will educate you on what caused the economic mess. Ready?

Clinton. Bill Clinton could have easily vetoed the Financial Services Modernization Act of 1999, but he did not. This not only deregulated "big banks" but offered sub-prime mortgage rates to unqualified people in order for Clinton to bloat the housing market. When people could not afford their mortgages, the bubble burst. Welcome to the present. 

In regard to Romney's job creation, as you've stated it is difficult to find accurate statistics as Bain Capital only invested in companies. That investment promoted growth and expansion (in most cases), which in turn created jobs. I've had this discussion before, and grown tired of it, but the wall street journal did a fact check on the claim that he created hundreds of thousands and concluded it was tens of thousands instead.

Look at his unemployment statistics as governor...that should suffice for why his job creation was slim in comparison.

You will not find me defending the Bush administration. Unfounded war-mongerers at best.

I cannot fathom how you can support a president that promises one thing and does the exact opposite. (Deficit, war, budget, economy, jobs)

Social issues come secondary to jobs and the economy.

As far as why I want Romney as president. He is a proven success in business, job creation, profiting. Exactly what this country needs. (Why do you think Herman Cain was leading the GOP race prior to those allegations?)