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Kasz216 on 01 October 2012
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mrstickball said:
Kasz216 said:
spurgeonryan said:
Does that wall go 50 feet into the ground? Does any other country other than China and West Germany have a border wall that big? Do we really want something like that?


Oh and North and South Korea mine field wall.


I'm not sure how many countries have a border that big.

And why not?  It'd look pretty badass.

Also walls don't hurt people you know.

 

Every illegal alien who comes in to work a crappy job is preventing a legal alien from coming here, getting paid more for that crappy job and getting more rights/living a better life.


That....... Really isn't true, though.

An illegal is coming into the country and taking a job, because our government won't let anyone come into the country legally to find a job.

Just ask SamuelRSmith.

I've asked him about trying to immigrate to America for IT work. He cannot come to America and work, outside of a temporary visa. Why? Because our government has a policy that will not let people come to this country unless the immigrant can do a job that an American can't.

So the result is that people simply come in illegally, because they know they can't come legally. Our immigration and naturalization system is broke. Its very similar to economics - if you restrict something severely, people go underground for it.

The easiest answer would be.........To reform the laws made that got is into this mess. Allow immigrants to come to this country and become naturalized - legally - with a defined process, and ensure that everyone gets a chance that wants it. Then, if someone does try to come in illegally, throw them out with no questions asked.


Well that's because he's from the UK.  It's tough as hell to immigrate from one rich country to another unless you have so much to bring it's ridiculious.

 

We've got a system for letting in people to the country randomly.   It's just the amount of people we allow in per year is based on the US census and expected growth.


The US Census treats illegal aliens the same as citizens.

 

A better more equitable system woud be great, but you can bet the "hardship" immigration cases would wildly increase if you cut off the supply of illegal immigration that works for under minium wage.