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Jay520 said:
GameOver22 said:
kain_kusanagi said:

It's all a matter of perspective. An omniscient being looking in on our universe from the outside can know all there is to know about our universe. From our perspective it knows all that there is to know. It could even know all there is to know about all universes, but we wouldn't see a difference if we could even understand that level of knowing.

You assume that an omniscient being has a limit to it's ability to know. A truly omniscient being could in fact know all things past, present and future. It could exist in all places at all times. It could be all things and know what it is to be those things.

An all powerful and all knowing being could even create a version of itself that doesn't know all things and then reintegrate to experience not knowing something. Or it could just know that all ready.

This. Its really about frame of reference. For a temporally situated being with a subjective view point, I think I would concede that they couldn't know everything because of their inability to view all possible observations. For non-physical, objective beings, I would say omniscience is still possible because, as you said, its possible for them to view everything with no constraints on their observations.



How could a being know he had no constraints? It may appear that his observation unlimited. But from his perspective, there could be things outside of His perspective. Of course he cannont verify that. Which leaves the being with at least one fact he does not know. Therefore he cannot know everything.


That's the whole point of omniscient being is that ther is no constraint to question how it's possible is to make a complex question out of something simple but not liking the results. It seems like you don't like the idea but doesn't mean it isn't true. It's like if someone said how could the big bang happen couldn't just never happen because it seems so unlikey to x person. Has no effect on truth it's just seems like argument from amazement.

On the topic of how can we tell if something is omniscient being that is flawed question because there would be no way for a human tell of what is and isn't omniscient being it would have to be omniscient being to tell us because we don't know everything like it does. 



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