Should teenagers and children determine what they eat for lunch?

[Kasz216]

richardhutnik said:

Kasz216 said:

richardhutnik said:

The argument against the laws used is stupidity.  It isn't based on wise views, just immature pandering and other emotionalism that usually drive populism. It is crying freedom... to drive a car off a cliff.

In the Towhall.com article, it was this playing up the stupid side of populism.  It wasn't  a call from moral superiority, but whining and pandering.  It was "look, the kids are suffering, Michelle Obama hates kids".  It is porky populism. 

First off... why shouldn't people be free to drive off of a cliff?  At what point do you deem people worthy enough to choose their own food if not being in highschool.  Or does nobody deserve that right?

Second off... the kids are suffering.

That article had nothing to do with populism.  All it did was point out kids weren't eating due to this law, and therefore the law is bad. 

 

Such a statement should be common sense.  Unless what, you think there should be a mandatory force feeding law maybe?

You ever try to substitute teach in an inner city public high school?  I have, and the suffering you speak of, they suffer if you make any demands.  They suffer if you ask them to sit silent and do their homework.  They suffer if you put any demands on them at all.  It is not comfortable.  They suffer if you give them homework.  They suffer if ANYTHING happens.  That is kids.  They are ALWAYS suffering.  And heck, when they make stupid decisions they suffer.

As for the second point, are you serious?  You believe in the cry for freedom, no matter HOW stupid it is to justify it?   The whole argument about "I am free to do whatever, so long as my fist doesn't hit your nose" is predicated upon getting hit in the nose not being a good thing.  The thing about kids, is they are told no, to be saved of worse problems.  Kids are told no.  They aren't free to do whatever they like.  Heck, even with adults, we have limits.  No, driving a car off a cliff isn't a good thing (as in doing it would get you killed) because there is a value of life, and it is seen that no sane person would intentionally drive a car off a cliff.

A) There are situations in which sane people would intentionallly drive off a cliff.

B) Raising a child is the duty and responsibility of the parents.   If the parents aren't telling kids no, there isn't ANYTHING school is going to be able to do about it.   You are trying to solve an issue of bad parenting through state intervention.   This can not work... and can only cause problems.

C)  No it isn't.   The "My nose hits your face" has shit all to do with being hit in the face being bad.  Bad afterall is a subjective situation.