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kain_kusanagi said:

Don't tell me your one of those guys who thinks that if it's also on MS Windows it isn't exclusive. Even if that were the case, only the first Gears of War got a MS Windows port. All the rest are only available on Xbox 360. But it doesn't matter. If MS publishes a title, it is essentialy theirs with an exception here or there.

Like I said. Sony and MS just go about things differently. Sony buys out devs to get exclusives. MS buys publishing rights to get exclusives. The end result is the same. Exclusive games published by them.

It doesn't matter how you define 1st party games because what really matters is if the games were published by Sony or Microsoft.

Exclusive for me is exclusive... Gears 1 is not exclusive, Gears 2/3 are exclusive... the franchise not.

Well I use the market definition...

First-party: IPs owned by the company and developer owned by the company (Eg: Halo, God of War, Gran Turismo, Forza, etc).
Second-party: IPs owned by the company and deceloped by third (Eg. Heavy Rain, Resistance,  Racket & Clank).
Third-pary: All the others (Eg. Gears, Metal Gear, Mass Effect, Resident Evil, etc).

That's it.