Sony fighting to stay relevant?

[sales2099]

leo-j said:

sales2099 said:

leo-j said:

sales2099 said:
Vita situation, PS3 red ink, lost marketshare are the big 3.

PS3's only saving grace is their ability to pump out core retail games. But again, aside from the vocal minority who praise Sony for this, sales of such exclusives are dropping fast every year (looking at LBP karting, PASBR, and Sly preorders).

Sonys success in past gens was due to the 3rd party industry more then anything else. Now that costs are high, multiplats are just the way to go. And there goes Sonys former ace in the hole. Cause lets be honest, Sony has no Mario or Halo to carry the console.

Well 3rd party games = revenue for sony either way.. so if COD sells 10 million copies.. sony makes a load of money on COD..

and the PS3 is not being sold for a loss.. there is no way in hell they are selling it for a loss considering their gaming division was profitable in 2011.. and they just released a model made by much CHEAPER parts.. for a HIGHER PRICE.. they are probably making way more money on the new ps3.. than they were the last ps3.. and I really doubt the vita is selling for a loss.. despite their marketing.. hardware development.. ans oftware development on the vita.. which brought almost no money to sony last year.. they still were very profitable with their gaming division..

and about 1st party exclusives selling less and less... look at Uncharted 3.. and I'm sure god of war Ascension will top at least 4 million copies..

Sony's success this gen is based on how much of a better company they have become in just 5 years.. they connect with their fans.. they listen to their needs.. in game xmb being one of the biggest examples of that(although they needed it considering PSNs features were lacking severily compared to XBL at the time..).. PSN is one of the best video game services in gaming history.. and they keep getting better with PS plus.. which offers way more value than XBL or any other service could probably ever dream of offering..

Your not taking into account the percentage of royalties that goes to Sony/MS/Nin from 3rd party games. Your also not taking into account a corporations various expenses. COD makes more money on 360 obviously, but I digress. My origional point on how Sony has smaller 3rd party support gen to gen has not been disproved by you.

Oh rly....I had no idea PS3 was profitable now.......I am offcourse referring to "total gen red ink". I can remember those news stories about 5+ billion losses, burning through ALL PS2 profits. Now please tell me if you seriously think Sony made all that money back in the last 2 years of selling PS3. Thats what I thought.

So you are telling me that Sony is adopting the Halo model.....take one exclusive and really develop it. GOW being the MS equivalent to Gears of War. Not in genre, but in sales potential. Offcourse Halo/Gears are bigger then Uncharted/GOW, but Sony is now adopting the 1st string, second string exclusive approach. The rest seem to fall under the radar......which was my origional point.

Success is based on profits, sales, and marketshare. I dont make the rules. Sony is down in all 3 counts compared to last gen. Nintendo and MS are up. You say they listen to gamers........then where are the uber preorders for PASBR if it was made as fan service?????

Its mentalities like yours that I really find interesting....in the face of such a downgrade gen over gen, you insist things are so rosy in camp Sony.

Why don't you post the royalties from 3rd party games for these video game companies and enlighten all of us..

Nothing you said in your 2nd mini paragraph made any sense..

They do listen to gamers.. that's why they have this.. www.blog.us.playstation.com

and your last line was irrelavant..

Your first sentence/question is irrelevant. My origional point, yet again, was not disproved by you.

My second paragraph made perfect sense. I am confused as to why you didnt think so. PS3 lost billions this gen and the last couple years of profit didnt come close to make up for it.

Your third line is about "on paper". In practise, games made for fan service like PASBR, are ignored by the PS3 community.Reality > theories.

Irrelevant or not, debating with ppl like you intrigue me. That is all. You want to dodge my points some more?