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Jumpin said:
Adinnieken said:

The United States is not a democracy, we are a republic.  We may be a democratic nation, but we are not a democracy and we never were nor did the founding fathers ever intend for the United States to be a democracy.

The US is a Democracy AND a Republic. These are not mutually exclusive terms. In other words; the implication that the US cannot be a democracy because it is a republic follows the same logic as saying that something cannot be a bus ibecause it is coloured green; neither statement is logically coherent.

Republics are countries whose head of states are not Monarchs.

Democracy is a system where eligible citizens have equal votes to elect the government.


Actually, no. In the American sense, a Republic is something where no Government is sovereign. ie, the Feds are not sovereign over the States, and vice versa. Powers are apportioned by the sovereign citizens to the various levels of Government. There are things that the Feds can and cannot do, same for the states, same for local.

If the Feds suddenly became 100% democratic, then they will essentially become the sovereign entity of the USA, as they will have vast new claims to power through ideas such as "public mandate"... in reality, this is pretty much the case, now, anyway... but it's not what the Founders envisioned, hence why the Senate was appointed, and the President indirectly elected.