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Veknoid_Outcast on 22 September 2012
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happydolphin said:
Jay520 said:
Your post is confusing. I'm not sure what you mean by Nintendo copying Sony. In what way, specifically, should Nintendo copy Sony.

If you mean Nintendo should copy Sony and make excellent games, then I disagree. Nintendo already makes excellent games.

And even if Nintendo didn't already make quality games, and then later decided to make quality games, that wouldn't be an act of copying Sony. Making quality games isn't intrinsically associated with Sony. Plenty of companies make quality games. It's not just Sony. So, making quality games wouldn't mean they're copying Sony.

If of course that's what you mean when you say Nintendo should copy Sony. I'm not really sure the point you're trying to stress.

You need to reread the OP. I'll give you pointers:

1) Above and beyond fantasy, to the point of surrealism. (read Team Ico)

2) The best games I've ever played (read quality vs classic).

3) Nintendo makes games more for kids. Read quality vs genre or taste/segment.

Then post again.

Sorry I'm late to the party on this one.

A few thoughts.

First of all, I think there is a big danger here of confusing descriptive terms with normative ones. Many words that video game enthusiasts and critics use to describe games -- dark, mature, epic, cinematic, surreal -- are useful in describing a video game, but not useful in assigning value.

Moreover, and I'm sure I'm in the minority on this, I believe video games should be moving farther away from movies, not closing in on them. Video games are a unique medium, and I think the closer the industry moves toward Hollywood, the worse it is for both.

That being said, the games you mentioned are of course brilliant. Ico is in my opinion the finest PS2 game, and Shadow of the Colossus is in the top 5. Nintendo should borrow from those games because they are mechanically sound, emotionally powerful, and fun to play. Not because they're darker or more sinister, or even more cinematic or surreal than Nintendo's own IPs.

Lastly, I think we have to but a moratorium on the "Nintendo makes games for kids" canard. Nintendo makes games for everyone. Some are good, some are bad, some are the greatest games of all time.