richardhutnik said:
Show me an example of a functioning civilization that doesn't have government as part of it? Unless you are anarchist, you believe that government is needed in some form. The debate is over how much government is needed and its role. Again, as I have wrote prior, government works, and that is the problem. The issues with anarchy is that people haven't found a way to make a "out of the goodness of their heart" argument work, in order to get what is believe is needed is done. What eventually creeps in is coersion to some degree. This has been shown scientifically via research, in what is called "the public goods game": http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_goods_game You can do more research on it, but it was found that having players punish other players for not contributing (aka, engaging in coersion) resulted in more contributions, and more public goods available (call this the common framework and glue of society). If you also want to try a game, where the goal is to score the most points, and optimal play on an individual level and group level produce the best results, but where players usually won't (aka, no governance in the game), feel free to try The Quitting Game, with -1 point penalty for each round you stay in the game: http://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/128512/the-quitting-game That is a game I created out of observing what I saw happen around Occupy, which had absolutely no form of governance and leadership on top, which lost to the coersive power of government, with law enforcement kicking them out of a park where I was. In the end, people will normally agree with the following, regarding government and taxes to pay for it: http://www.quoteworld.org/quotes/6696
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I never we didn't government. We dont need to rely on government for everyday things.
I was merely responding to that. Any of those items were, and can be done with out the government.
No need to go on an anarchist rant. Just because I dont think the government is the end all be all of everything does not mean i do not think it should exist.