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freebs2 said:
DanneSandin said:
freebs2 said:
DanneSandin said:
 

The rumor has it that xbox3 will come bundled with Kinect 2.0, so that's gotta be more expansive than the version we got today. As I stated in the OP, I believe 3rd party developers would make games for WiiStation (if they're similar in power) and therefore not utilizing Xbox3's ful capacity.

You could be right but it depends on how much the newest game engines and tools are scalable. Also why should Ps4 and WiiU be similar in power? WiiU it's not a big genertion jump for Ps3 and 360 owners, in terms of graphics at least. I understand Sony can't probably afford to sell on loss anymore but the ps4 needs to be significantly more powerfull than WiiU otherwise, ps3 owners won't see a generation gap to justify the console upgrade.

Imo a possible sceario is Ps4 launching between 399$ and 499$ by the end of 2013 (by that time the WiiU could likely be sold at profit for 249$ and 299$). Supposing the ps4 won't have a tablet-pad but a reagular controller, this should be enough to make the console more powerfull than WiiU by a significant margin and still selling on profit. I think the paragon between Ps4 and WiiU is fair enough since both will have to face the same exchange rates porblem.

Also you're making an assumption when you implicitly say, developers will want to create an equivalent port of their games on every possible platform. This has happened this gen because market shares were more or less equally split. But you can't know if same thing is going to happen next-gen. During Ps2/GC/Xbox days, the ps2 got the most of 3rd party exclusives, and that's obviously not because the games couldn't be ported on GC and Xbox but simply because the Ps2 was a dominant console. Now let's say, to make another assumption, microsoft will go aggressive next-gen and will launch a cutting-edge xbox3 for a similar price to the (not cutting edge but tecnically superior to WiiU) Ps4. In this case the Xbox3 could have tha chance to gather both ex-360 users and ex-ps3 users and become a new dominant console, hence it could give 3rd parties a reason to fully utilize xbox3 capacity.

 

Crono141 is right you know; the economy won't allow a system launching at $499. I'd say that no system will launch above $399.99 and be successful in the coming years.

And if you read the OP

I've read the OP, in fact I gave a price assumption for Ps4 basing on WiiU, we all know Nintendo won't sell WiiU at loss, and also the same exchange rates problem must be applied for both Ps4 and WiiU.

And yes, PS3 owners are gonna want a generation leap to purchase a new system. But it's not gonna be anything like the leap from PS2 to PS3. Wasn't PS1 to PS2 a generation leap as well? Yes, it was - and that's the kind of leap we'll see nect gen.

I've never said the next-gen leap will be like old-gen leap, on this fact I agree with you actually. What I meant was Sony won't likely stay too much low-profile on console specs, since they have to give a valid upgrade reason for Ps3 owners. If they make Ps4 more or less equal to WiiU in terms of graphics they won't see a reason to upgrade. (btw. This is of topic but I actually think the Ps1->Ps2 leap was superior to Ps2->Ps3 leap.)

I'm assuming that all 3 consoles will get equel 3rd party support because of the costs of developing games nowadays. We all know it cost a shit load making games this past gen for PS360, and it's this reason that's making your "PS2 exclusive 3rd party support" invalid. Back then, having 3rd party exclisives worked - it was of the business had worked for 2 decades. But that business model fell through when development costs rose through the roof this gen. 

But yes, if X3ox is HUGE (in the same way PS2 was huge) then they'll probably get exclusive 3rd party games. 

All true but I'm not necessarily talking about 3rd party exclusives, I just mean developer could be interested in optimize Xbox version, expecially if, like you say, engines are scalable.

Anyway I don't think your argument is wrong but at the moment there are still too many untold variables to tell if things are going to be like that, it's a bit early to tell. Actually I'm in crowd rooting for WiiU.

Well, I disagree that a $499 console would sell very well nowadays and launching a systems at that price point would be a big mistake.

But I do agree with you that there's too many variables we don't know to make a good estimate of how powerful next PSbox will be, but that's what thread like this so much fun :D predictions is part of fandome, isn't it? ;) and, besides, if this turns out to be right I'm gonna Legend to my sig :D:D



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