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happydolphin said:
JWeinCom said:

Animals are waaaaay more complex creatures than you give them credit for, and I'm not about to speculate about what goes on in the head of a raped horse, although keep in mind that horses and dogs respond to authority very strongly.  We've bred them for obedience for centuries.

But all that is besides the point.  The main question is this.  Why would allowing marraige between two consentual adult humans suddenly lead us to allow relationships between a human and a horse?  You said that it would, so please explain the WHY behind that statement.

I accept your argument, but the silence of a human is much stronger imho. I'll just leave it there since we both agree it's a rabbithole we don't want to fall into.

TheWHY. So, as I explained to Jay, in my humble opinion, there is such a thing as absolute morality, that is defined above and beyond the personal experiences of each person. You may not agree with that, and that's your pre-rogative, but as a believer in the divine and his holy statutes, it is my opinion that anything that is outside of his ordinances, that is accepted, paves the way to loosening the sacredness in other areas. So, for instance, opening the door to pedophilia is a step to opening the door to homosexuality, to bestiality, and vice versa.

I have no pragmatic reason for this except my own personal conscience and senses of the results of these activities. That's all I can say.


If that's your personal belief than that's fine and dandy.  You're an individual, and you're free to determine your behavior based on your personal beliefs.  If you think that homosexuality is going to lead you down the road to bestialty, then by all means don't have gay sex.

The problem is that the person who said this quote was not just some guy on a message board.  He was a senator, who is in charge of making policies.  It is his job to look at the evidence and make informed and educated decisions.  It's not ok for him to legislate based on his personal opinons, religious beliefs, or anything besides sound logic, reasoning, and evidence.