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@Stever89,

Can you prove that casual non-gamers don't buy SMG?

What selling BETTER, wii sport/wii play(after 60 weeks) or SMG(after 12 weeks it reached SMS numbers) in Japan???
It will take some time(SMG only 12-14 weeks here, and haven`t reached sms numbers in usa), before same Wii play still will be oustelling SMG weekly by A LOT.

Also, since the Wii userbase without the "casual non-gamers" would be less than the userbase of the GameCube, that would mean that SMG is selling more (i.i. BETTER) on a console with less users who are willing to buy the game.
Selling better to HARDCORE nintendo fans, BECAUSE MOST of them BOUGHT SMG and Wii.
You GOT THE POINT. BRAVO.
NO matter what usebase will be, mariofans number won`t increase by a lot.

GC - 1 mln hardcore mario fans which bough mario + 4 mln. casual gamers/not mario fans.
Wii - 1mln. hardcore mario fans + 2 mln. casual gamers/not mario fans + 2 mln. non-gamers.

I don't have first week numbers for Ratchet PS2. But I'm sure they were better than PS3 Ratchet first week. I guess there's too many casual non-gamers buying the PS3 as a blu-ray player.
OK.

Higher userbase usually equals higher sales.
HOW MANY TIMES DO I HAVE TO REPEAT YOU? WII IS NOT SUCH CASE! =))

Do you have any proof of this or is it just your opinion. I only have interest in facts, not opinions.

@Gnizmo, Wii sport/Wii play sales and SMG in Japan.

@Final-Fan,
I would like to know if you are basing your whole argument, as it seems to me that you are, on the assumption that "yes, sales are great, but that was all the GAMERS and now they've all bought it and none of the "non-gamer casuals" will buy it." Is that a good summary of your position?
SMG bought by 80-85% of mario/nintendo fans. Almost ALL mariofans bought Wii and SMG.

If you disagree, you are free to provide some FACTS.



Every 5 seconds on earth one child dies from hunger...

2009.04.30 - PS3 will OUTSELL x360 atleast by the middle of 2010. Japan+Europe > NA.


Gran Turismo 3 - 1,06 mln. in 3 weeks with around 4 mln. PS2 on the launch.
Gran Turismo 4 - 1,16 mln. with 18 mln. PS2 on the launch.

Final Fantasy X - around 2 mln. with 5 mln. PS2 on the launch.
Final Fantasy X-2 - 2.4 mln. with 12 mln. PS2 on the launch.

 

1.8 mln. PS3 today(2008.01.17) in Japan. Now(2009.04.30) 3.16 mln. PS3 were sold in Japan.
PS3 will reach 4 mln. in Japan by the end of 2009 with average weekly sales 25k.

PS3 may reach 5 mln. in Japan by the end of 2009 with average weekly sales 50k.
PS2 2001 vs PS3 2008 sales numbers =) + New games released in Japan by 2009 that passed 100k so far