Wii U vs PS4 vs Xbox One FULL SPECS (January 24, 2014)

[Crono141]

Andrespetmonkey said:

Crono141 said:

Andrespetmonkey said:

Nobody is talking about a PS3-like loss. This isn't even close to being on the same scale. 

PS3's lacklustre sales can largely be attributed to its price, which shouldn't be a problem this time around, unless you think they'll release a $600 console again. For launch titles we'll have to wait and see.

For the graphical leap PS fans are expecting it to have, it'll be another 600 dollar console, with over 100 dollars of loss per console baked into that price.  Or a 400 dollar console with 300 dollars of loss built in.  No one is going to greenlight that project.

These seem like baseless assumptions, I'm a PS fan who's expecting a leap that can easily be achieved with $500 hardware (sold for $400). What kind of leap are you imagining PS fans are imagining? How is the graphical leap relevant to me saying they can make a $100 loss back?

Otherwise, it'll look just like WiiU graphics.  Who's going to buy a PS4 that has graphics like a WiiU with less titles for 100+ dollars more than a WiiU?  The Sony faithful, and the sony faithful only.

And I wasn't talking about the loss per console like PS3.  I mean the general loss situation like PS3. So do I.

Not to mention that the console is going to get panned for its hardware being left over unwanted PC components just like the original Xbox got panned for the same thing.  Because from what I'm hearing, that is exactly what PS4 is going to have: an x86 AMD processor with built in gfx processor.  In fact, they may be trying to do what they've done every gen since PS2 and claim its actually a computer, not a game console.  Heck, it might even launch with Windows 8 installed.  Wouldn't that be ironic.

Both PS360 consoles are rumoured to be using off-the-shelf parts that'll be slightly modified, so what? Why do you describe them as "left over unwanted" pc parts?

edit: read my replies to viper and happysquirrel before you reply because those might answer a question or counterpoint you're about to write.

I guess to get on the same page I need to ask this question: What example of "next gen" graphics do you expect PS4 to achieve?  I've heard other people throw around Starwars 1313 as an example.  Is this approximately the level you expect?