Wii U vs PS4 vs Xbox One FULL SPECS (January 24, 2014)

[Crono141]

Andrespetmonkey said:

Crono141 said:

Andrespetmonkey said:

Viper1 said:
And a $100 loss per console is far too much for them as a company now than it was back in 2006. In 2006, they were a financially sound comapny. That is not the case today. If they sold 10 million units at a $100 loss, that's a $1 billion loss to a company that can't handle taking on another billion dollar loss.

They won't make a $1 billion loss. They'll lose that much on consoles, but make it back within maybe a year through software sales and to a much lesser extent peripheral sales (if they make a profit), give it another 6 months oon top of that for R&D, manufacturing and what not.

Viper buys a PS4, Sony loses $100. Viper then buys 5 or 6 retail games over the next year, a few smaller downloadbles and maybe some Minis, subscribes to Netflix, maybe a new streaming service or PS4 or PS+, he makes some microtransactions on F2P games, possibly buys another controller or PS eye/Move 2 (or whatever they may have)... etc.

That money is definitely made back (unless it's PS3 scale money), it's just a matter of how long it takes. A year/year and a half due to $100? Not a problem. 

Unless things turn out like PS3 again: lackluster launch titles, lackluster sales, consoles sitting on store shelves.  They can't afford to take that risk again.  Another loss like PS3 will not just bury the computer division of sony, it would bury sony all together.  The board of directors would not take such a risk.

Nobody is talking about a PS3-like loss. This isn't even close to being on the same scale. 

PS3's lacklustre sales can largely be attributed to its price, which shouldn't be a problem this time around, unless you think they'll release a $600 console again. For launch titles we'll have to wait and see.

For the graphical leap PS fans are expecting it to have, it'll be another 600 dollar console, with over 100 dollars of loss per console baked into that price.  Or a 400 dollar console with 300 dollars of loss built in.  No one is going to greenlight that project.

Otherwise, it'll look just like WiiU graphics.  Who's going to buy a PS4 that has graphics like a WiiU with less titles for 100+ dollars more than a WiiU?  The Sony faithful, and the sony faithful only.

And I wasn't talking about the loss per console like PS3.  I mean the general loss situation like PS3.

Not to mention that the console is going to get panned for its hardware being left over unwanted PC components just like the original Xbox got panned for the same thing.  Because from what I'm hearing, that is exactly what PS4 is going to have: an x86 AMD processor with built in gfx processor.  In fact, they may be trying to do what they've done every gen since PS2 and claim its actually a computer, not a game console.  Heck, it might even launch with Windows 8 installed.  Wouldn't that be ironic.