sales2099 said:
Ajescent said:
Barozi said:
Ajescent said:
Barozi said:
What has Sony to do with that ? Third parties have already reported sales from PSN and XBLA though they mostly don't report the exact split.
Then there is Fade LLC who estimates digital numbers just like VGC does it (I think ioi is even involved in there and even more so an old member of our forum - mrstickball)
and lastly there are still leaderboards where you could get an idea of how well a game does.
The only PSN game that has a realistic chance at being over 1 million sales is FFVII because it was on top of basically all PSN charts Sony provided. But other than that there is not much else. Journey is breaking sales records for fastest selling PSN game but that doesn't meant at all that it sold more. (and FFVII is a PSOne game, but let's not get into those details)
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Unless you can give EXACT numbers of what EVERY single game on PSN has sold, you can't criticise psn's numbers because it seems most of it is just hearsay. I'm sorry but this is rediculous without exact irrefutable facts.
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And I think it is ridiculous to think otherwise without any facts. I tried to provide some, you just say "uh uuuhhh".
Surely Sony or any company making PSN games wouldn't brag about good sales right ?
360 still sold ~100m more retail games, why is it so hard to believe that XBLA does better in sales ?
Your logic is extremely flawed and what the hell are you even doing on VGC when you don't believe in some kind of estimates ??
By your logic a PSN game with one confirmed sales has as a fact more sales than an XBLA game with 1m leaderboard entries.
I don't doubt at all that PSN sell more games than XBLA, but that is with PS Minis, with PSOne games with PSP games, with full PS3 games and that's just not a valid comparison.
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What annoys me about this is: This was never a thread about sales but low and behold, here we are. This was a thread talking about quality games that are fun to play regardless of "sales". Yet again, it's degenerated to sales talk. But on that topic, my arguement was: You can't jump to conclusions without any facts.
that's all I have to say on that matter, now get back on topic.
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I love moments like these.....providing facts to show the simply reality. And like we established.....this isnt taking into account the gamers interest (aka sales) of these games.
This was from a 2010 list I made. For this thread im only gonna put PSN vs XBLA
XBLA METACRITIC.COM
AAA (2) = Limbo, Super Meat Boy
AA (8 ) = Darwinia+, Misadventures of P. B. Winterbottom, Toy Solders, Puzzle Quest 2, Snoopy Flying Ace, Lazy Raiders, Plants VS Zombies, Pinball FX2
A (16) = Perfect Dark, Chime, Zeno Clash: Ultimate Edition, Doom 2, Dead Rising 2: Case Zero, RISK: Factions, Hydro Thunder Hurricane, Monday Night Combat, Serious Sam HD: The Second Encounter, Comic Jumper: The Adventures of Captain Smiley, Space Ark, Guwange, Raskulls, A World of Keflings, Dead Rising 2: Case West, Quake Arena Arcade
PSN METACRITIC.COM
AAA (0) =
AA (6) = Joe Danger, Hustle Kings, Sam & Max: The Devil's Playhouse Episode 1 - The Penal Zone, Sam & Max: The Devil's Playhouse Episode 2 - The Tomb of Sammun-Mak, Sam & Max: The Devil's Playhouse Episode 5: The City That Dares Not Sleep, Swords and Soldiers
A (7) = Soldner-X 2: Final Prototype, Sam & Max: The Devil's Playhouse Episode 3: They Stole Max's Brain!, Tumble, Flight Control HD, Hoard, Deadnation, Echochrome 2
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My 2012 current 360 vs PS3 list. This one doesn't separate downloadable from retail due to the increased relevance of downloadable titles. But im sure you can pick them out and see the same conclusion.
360
90+ (2) - Trials Evolution, Mark of the Ninja
80-89 (8) - The Witcher 2, Fez, Dust: An Elysian Tail, Sine Mora, Joe Danger 2: The Movie, Minecraft, Spelunky, Happy Action Theatre
70-79 (8) - Akai Katana Skin, Alan Wake: AN, Hybrid, The Splatters, Anomaly: Warzone Earth, Zuma Revenge, Quarrel, Haunt
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PS3
90+ (1) - Journey
80-89 (6) - MLB 12: The Show, Dyad, Closure, Jak and Daxter Collection, Ratchet and Clank Collection, Sound Shapes
70-79 (8)- Twisted Metal, Starhawk, Sorcery, Tales of Graces, Motorstorm RC, House of the Dead 4, Rainbow Moon, Retro/Grade
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Granted some games here are/were only timed exclusive. I still think thats worth mentioning none the less. History has shown the later releases get lost in obscurity and irrelevance.
Like my previous post said. PS3 has retail nailed down. PSn is great, but doesnt hold a candle to XBLA.
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