| ninetailschris said:
1.When you say allow it you make it seem like it's like a good deed. That's not how it works as it even uses words that are crime words meaning this if you rufused would have been killed and the woman would would be trouble because of lack of support. It's called making best of situation. If he is put in jail he is not able to make a profit for the woman and if he isn't married with her she isn't going to have anyone to physically her with labor that man do. So, not only does he have to work more he also has to more general labor for his new wife and possible children that society would mostly forced him to do because the father(of woman) would want his generation to go on. Again this is crime. If he rufused he would have been stone. When forced to marry her he is paying with lot more labor. Again you can't ignore these factors. 1.Don't work don't get feed. 2. No support from a man means you will die off . No food or water. 3.HAving children back in those time was VERY important to that woman because it meant there generation goes on and that was honorable in the society they were in Honor is the most important thing. 4. You have to have a man to do certain things a woman just can't do in those days. Like go get food yourself if your low on curreny or cattle work. 5. It was treated as crime when using the word "violated her" it was nothing to laugh about. And remember if he tried to rape her in front of father they would try to stop him and kill. But once it happens it's over there is no going back it's damaged. There forced to pick between letting your child die from lack of support or find a solution. You didn't get anything for free in the country you had to work like collectivist. 6. To stess again when they say forced to marry that means if you disagree your dead. If you don't support her your dead. This guy can't screw up and do adultury because he would be stoned. You don't think he has ANY pressure? It's like having a gun to your head everywhere you go because if you screw up BAM you're punished. He has work more to pay off the father and support the woman so again he has to do LOT forever. You mistake allow and violated. Because if he tried raping someone girl and ddidn't get sucessful that is what we like to call a public stoning to death(kick him in deep hole were he would die before being actually stone). Please tell me how that was ALLOWED. It seem like they had there hands tied behind there hands and had to make rational decision for there child. No one in the passage is saying oh man you did a great job here is babe. It's more like: " Ok you think your smart? You will now have to pay off what you made me loss money from no longer getting money from girl and you have to pay for my girl for the rest of your life. Guess wha you going to have to be working a lot more than you had to do before and you will have children from my girl and will have to do more. Any if you screw up you pay for your crimes of not doing the honorable thing and making up for mistake." Putting him in jail or killing him would do nothing for girl as she would still be screwed over and die from lack of food/water. This can't be avoided because we all know if your not working or not making money therefor no one is getting supported. Again the father of the woman or the woman herself would have requested to the man. If this was in a modern world the woman could get a job and have the man arrested but in OT life wasn't that simple. It's better to solve a problem than to just cause more. |
Again, you're asserting that there are rules involved after raping someone. I'm not arguing that.
I'm arguing the fact that the bible does not say raping is morally wrong or should not be done. It says that raping can be done, but there are rules afterwards.
It's the same as saying "you can stab someone, but you must take care of them afterwards." Sure, the suspect could take him to the hospital, pay for his stitches, give him a bed, feed him, etc, etc. But none of this negates the fact that stabbing people is wrong.
The bible shouldn't say "Take care of the woman you rape." The bible should say "Raping is wrong and is a sin."
The bible is saying that a man is fine and good if he rapes a woman, as long as he takes care of her. That's wrong in my book. Perhaps you disagree though.
