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setsunatenshi said:
richardhutnik said:
pezus said:
richardhutnik said:
pezus said:
"Deuteronomy 22:28-29
28 If a man happens to meet a virgin who is not pledged to be married and rapes her and they are discovered, 29 he shall pay her father fifty shekels[a] of silver. He must marry the young woman, for he has violated her. He can never divorce her as long as he lives."

Did you miss this?

In that culture he gained the legal obligation to take care of her.  He had to treat her as a wife, if he went and did that.  If you are going to comment on this, and put it out there, do you care to show what it was like in that culture and comment on what happened to a woman who was made to no longer be a virgin?  Please feel free to, since that verse interests you so much.

I took it from Jay, who found it. Why did you and ninetails not comment on it when he put it forth? This makes one wonder whether the Bible is not just horribly outdated.

Anyone attempting to apply Old Testament laws, without understanding historical context is asking for trouble.  From a Christian perspective, it would be suggested HIGHLY that Old Testament texts are viewed through what the New Testament says.


That kind of proves the point that this god character didn't really create humans, humans have created this god. And 'his' oppinions seem to always reflect the morals and oppinions of the society that creates it.

In the example above if instead treating the woman as damaged good  this god character would say 'if you rape a woman you shall be punished. a woman who was raped is no less than she was before. virginity is not a quality in which you should value someone as a person, instead only take into consideration how well they treat themselves and others'

Now if this god character actually said something to this effect... maybe you could at least have a point for good advice

How about there being actually context in which commands are given?  Christianity is not a theocratic religion.  At its core it builds small communities in a larger framework, and assumes people will not be in a position of power.  The Old Testament operated in a context of a theocratic society, where the society completely consisted of everyone under a common religion.  Because of this, and how it is, the situation is different.  Now, do you want to take the Old Testament command on the rape situation, and add the New Testament on top of it?  Well the rapist is required to love his wife the way Christ loves the Church, and even die for her.

In light of this, there is also giving comnands and so on, within the constraints by which they could be followed.  Or heck, they aren't even given as a means a a guide of some sort of way to obtain righteousness, but as a way to show how mankind falls short.  

Reality is, you can read whatever you want into this, and believe whatever you want.  And you are free to believe this.  So, go ahead.  Personally, I have no interest in proceeding here and trying to discuss issues if your mind is set and you want to try to persuade one way or the other.