IIIIITHE1IIIII said:
DaRev said:
ha ha, my 3 year old son prays every night and we always take him to church, but I doubt that makes him a Christian, even if he would do that until he is 16 or even 60, and he is a good kid, like many kids. But that doesn't make one a christian or make one fit to debate christianity or religion. Lawyers, teachers, doctors, musician, writers, even GAMERS spend many years at their craft before they can properly debate things - christianity or religion is the same.  Go read your bible.
What first post? About WiiU being a christian for 16 years?
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IIIIITHE1IIIII said:
DaRev said:
So because Jesus did something more miraculous than Lincoln, that gives you reason not to believe that he is real? That's why he is God, he was suppose to do things no man could ever do, so that you would believe he was God. Now you say because he did miracles that's why you don't belive in him or that he existed? ha ha, you're really messed up. I suppose then if he didn't do miracles you would believe in him? lol good one. |
Let me ask you this: Why on Earth would anyone believe that Jesus actually performed these miracles? All we have is a book which was obviously written by one or more people (and not even by Jesus himself), and the writer(s) obviously wanted to carry out a message. So why would we trust anything that is claimed in this book? The writer was the one who claimed that Jesus could perform miracles, not Jesus. You can't trust this source just like you can't trust someone who claims that he saw a ghost.
Like APM said: You would need extraordinary evidence to prove that Jesus could perform miracles. And at this point believing that Jesus can perform miracles is, in my opinion, not too different from believing that Harry Potter is performing magic at Hogwarts as we speak. Or at least the evidence perfectly equal.
Don't get me wrong though: Jesus did, according to the book, carry out an extremely valuable message which I wish more people would follow (namely that you should be a better example rather than fighting fire with fire), and I salute anyone, including my religious family, who lives by that message.
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On another note: Have you ever heard of Russel's teapot? It is never up to non-believers to disprove supernatural events, beings, actions or whatever. The burden of proof is on you.
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Sorry I did miss that post, too many to respond to really, I'm a busy man On this top, as you can see
Anyways:
1) 1) First off the source or writer is God – but to discern that you’re going to have to use a bit more than your brain. Now, many people contributed to the bible yes, but that is a good thing, because Jesus got more than one person to back up his claims and say yes, we saw him perform miracles. If Jesus himself ‘wrote’ about himself, how believable would that be? You can trust the Bible, just like you might trust any account that there was a man called Alexander the Great – or you don’t believe he lived either?
2) 2) Harry Potter as famous as he is, would never do what Jesus did, i.e. start a mass revolution of believers in one God, which has lasted generations - he even got you here debating him. That my friend IS a miracle if you ever need one. Tell Harry Potter do that (or do you believe HP is real).
See one thing is true, that if Jesus wasn’t real, he would have already been disproven many generations ago. But he is real, so you’re stuck with him.
3) 3) Good, but he did more than just preach a good message.
Never heard of Russel's teapot, but I disagree with his statement as you posted it. Anyways, don’t try to disprove Christianity, you’ll go mad, cause it’s impossible to disprove Christinity. Christianity doesn’t necessarily want to get into an argument of proof with anyone. It simply presents the existance of God and you either accept it or not. The problem comes sometimes when people claim, like many are doing in here, that Christianity as it presents itself, is a fairytale. Well, if it is, then prove it.
