Richest Man in France Seeks Belgian Citizenship

[Mr Khan]

Kasz216 said:

Mr Khan said:

People deserve a certain modicum of dignity (or the lower rungs on Marslow's Hierarchy of Needs): namely health, food, and shelter. It behooves the whole of society also if those who are unable to participate in society are made able to participate (and also fulfills another Need), and these Needs are superior to the "right of a man to the sweat of his own brow."

Those who are able to give should give, those who are in need should receive.

Now the how of all this is, of course, the tricky part, but there is little doubt that this course of action is *right,* save by those who hold unfeasibly extreme views of property rights.

The problem is... everyone in ethe first world has maslows needs met on the most basic level.

 

Starvation just isn't a thing stataistically.   Longe term Homelesness research generally shows it as a case of either A) People wanting to be off the grid.  B) Mental Insanity.

And France has a universal healthcare system.

France's main issue is that government spending is 56% of GDP.... and that's the more conservative estimate.

 

We're effectively having two different arguments here. Homer is arguing against welfare period, which i'm arguing against through a description of the standards of human dignity which should be maintained.

France, now, there's a peculiar problem, and one being misrepresented. The new tax rate is not going to go without cuts (which, ironically, Hollande is taking a beating in public opinion polls because he's still moving forward with certain cuts which the French are opposed to). Hollande's kick was that he was not going to implement discompassionate austerity.

I wouldn't be so vociferous if people weren't all up in here making such hyperbolic arguments.