homer said:
leatherhat said:
Mr Khan said:
homer said:
Mr Khan said:
leatherhat said:
Mr Khan said:
People deserve a certain modicum of dignity (or the lower rungs on Marslow's Hierarchy of Needs): namely health, food, and shelter. It behooves the whole of society also if those who are unable to participate in society are made able to participate (and also fulfills another Need), and these Needs are superior to the "right of a man to the sweat of his own brow."
Those who are able to give should give, those who are in need should receive.
Now the how of all this is, of course, the tricky part, but there is little doubt that this course of action is *right,* save by those who hold unfeasibly extreme views of property rights.
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How, specifically, do you intend to get him to pay this money- regardless of tax rate. Pretend I'm him, convince me to stay in France.
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I wouldn't. He's free to go, after having oh, say, 50% of his net worth seized by the State.
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How can you believe this to be fair? His money is his money. Not your money. Not my money. Not France's money.
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Because he's trying to dodge a civic duty, no different than throwing a draft dodger in jail
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So a forced transfer of funds from the French to their refugee population. I thought government was supposed to be for the people?
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This brings up another point. Why do France and especially Germany do things like this? How are the people not outraged by their government wasting their money on refugees who just suck money away from the hard working citizens?
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Simple, really. People get the benefits of government. They get state of the art infrastructure, affordable health care, a safety net to catch them when they fall, corporations that have to treat their workers with respect, a mandatory month of vacation time and various other government programs that these hard working citizens can rely on. And finally, the Franch people probably don't mind their country offering humanitarian aid to refugees. I certainly don't mind my tax dollars going to help people of other countries.
My question for Americans would be why they aren't outraged with a health care system that punishes people for being sick and charges people exorbatant rates for inefficient care, a corporate system that allows companies to treat workers like dirt and give them the least number of vacation days of any 1st world country (unpaid, mind you. In most countries, mandatory vacation is paid vacation), and support candidates that seem out to do nothing but SHRED the safety net that the poor and working class rely on, in the middle of a RECESSION no less were millions of people are out of work through no fault of their own.
No system is perfect. France's isn't, and ours certainly isn't.
