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Khuutra on 03 September 2012
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Mr Khan said:
Khuutra said:

The long-suffering graphic conversation is a pissing contest about console abilities, not about the games in question, and as consequence is not a good conversation about games.

I thought I had made a Castlevania thread, actually, though if I didn't it's based on prior experience; I made a big Mass Effect thread (as you have mentioned) wherein I put in a lot of effort, and there was a Fire Emblem thread in much the same vein, and perhap a few others

All of them met their inevitable fates because I was, in the end, the only person positng in them; if you have to post three times in a row in a topic to keep it alive, it is time to let it die because the conversation is simply not there. So too happened with the "Zelda marathon" thread, and some others.

I have been trying to get good conversations going in this forum ever since I noticed there was a problem in that respect (about three years ago, maybe a little less). They never last long, in spite of how hard I try. People here just aren't that interested in talking about games for the sake of games, they - or at least, many of them, it's not fair to characterize everyone this way - are in it for pissing contests, for oneupsmanship, and for spam. It's an altogether adversarial, non-constructive environment, and it stifles conversation wherever those seeds are desperately sewn.

My efforts to troll the thread aside, i thought your Metroid thread did decently well.

The Zelda marathon thing i don't remember well, but i remember that my issue with it was a matter of time. I lacked the resources to participate, and therefore did not, which i imagine was the issue with others as well at the time.

A conversation about gender dynamics and the faceless hero archetype managed to break 100 posts

Now granted that's not bad on a site that's such a total sausage fest as this one with as many people who are as sexually defensive as the users here, but it's still relatively disappointing

Over a dozen people signed up for the Zelda thing; it did not get off the ground regardless.

The Mass Effect thread was probably the most egregious.

The point remains, though, at its core: it is inordinately difficult to get people to talk abotu games here, even games they play and games about which there is a lot of discussion to be had.