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dahuman on 31 August 2012
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richardhutnik said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:

When I first got onto VGChartz I only owned a 360 (Which of course I defended at the time because MS had the third party exclusives). No offense but the 360 owners were stomping the PS3 owners for "having no games" and doing the exact same crap the PS3 owners are dishing out today. 2008 through now Sony has been throwing out the exclusives and people have swayed. Some stayed on a side lableing, and abusing the rules (we all have). All console camps were boasting, including the Wii owners who finally after two generations could say their faith in Nintendos ability to dominate wasn't in vain. Of course the war was always between the PS3/360 owners who warred amongst ourselves. People had a reason to argue for Microsoft back in 2005-2008 but after that I really don't know what to tell you. Perhaps some people got scared off, but the fact remains the trolls exist in every group, arguers do too. We've all been in on it because we all have a personal preference even if we own all of the consoles. The response to the topic is founded on the truth that essentially nothing pertaining to online multiplayer is free to play on Xbox Live, so Microsofts statement about it being a natural fit is actually founded on a lie.

Here is the quote from the end of OP:

“The free-to-play model and games experiences will be available to all Xbox LIVE Gold subscribers,” the spokesperson concluded, “as many of the games planned will be multiplayer games by nature (an Xbox LIVE Gold subscription is required for multiplayer gaming). The games that use the free-to-play mechanic will leverage the Microsoft Points system.”

That is the running joke of this post. By their very nature Microsoft does not support free online gaming.

Every single thing contained in that quote fits the context of the quote.  It CLEARLY states the "free to play" model/experience/mechanism (aka, how free to play works) is going to go to XBox Live Gold members.  For those who are already paying for Gold, they are going to get games they didn't pay for, to use with their account.  

People to say this is a lie is seriously pushing it.  By the full context, it is accurate.  If one wants to then split hairs over how "free to play" is being defined, feel free to.  But you will see individuals who defend PS+ to no end, and say they are getting FREE games, say Microsoft is lying.  This is inconsistent.  Both use a subscription model and give you content to use with the subscription model for no additional charge.  WIth the F2P model, there is also likely micropayments that are coming.

And the reality is, on how cute this discussion has gotten, you pay for Internet and everything else.  Next up, is fully free to play going to consist of games being beamed directly toyour head?

Nothing is absolutely free, where the line is drawn is hardware vs service, you have to obviously pay for the hardware to get to the content no matter which platform you are on. Look at it this way, I have a PS3, I don't have PSN+, if there are F2P content on it, I automatically have full access to them, then I have a PC, same thing, I have a Wii and will have a Wii U, same thing. Now lets look at the 360 eco system, nope, after you pay for the hardware, you have to pay to play online, F2P content is not really free due to the service they provide. That's why I've always had a problem with XBL to start with, alot of people don't see or want to see the layers.

You say we pay for the internet, yes, we absolutely do, but at the same time, that's why I so badly want google fiber to take over the entire US since they have an option for you to pay 300 bucks to setup the box and fiber then you can use their 5/1 service for at least 7 years guaranteed without paying a dime for the service :P I would totally pay 70 bucks for their full gigabit service of course muwahahaha.