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binary solo said:
Idiot fans can shout "free" all they like. They're still idiots and they'll always be wrong when a subscription is a pre-requisite.

What needs to be called here though out is the fact that Microsoft are very specifically claiming "free to play". Whereas Sony has never used that term (which has a pretty well understood meaning) in relation to the "free" stuff you get as a PSN+ member.

MS was wrong to use the F2P claim. They should have come up with a different term.

Misleading and deceptive PR needs to be called for what it is. If you can point to misleading and deceptive PR from Sony around PSN+ then call it out. If not then all the blow back at fans who are delluding themselves that their getting free stuff isn't just diversion from admitting that MS has been caught in a lie.

It's unfortunate that this thread's been derailed by debating PSN+ vs Gold and what's free and what's not. But let's be honest here, would there even be a thread if MS hadn't tried to claim they were getting in to F2P? I doubt it. So the subject of the thread really is F2P, not the games themselves.

The other unfortunate thing is that it takes un-fans poking fun at the claim on forums like this for the claim itself to be exposed as a [minor] fraud. Why is the news media merely parroting MS's PR instead of holding up a light to the claim and examining it critically, and pointing out the fallacy of it? Companies get away with a lot of crap because the news media just publish company PR press releases without really looking critically at what's being said. And journalists are scared to ask the hard questions in interviews, for fear of being blacklisted and never scoring interviews again. This F2P thing is just a small little smear of pooh that barely even smells, but it's part of the PR method and it's the free pass frm the media that I really find annoying.

Sure the quoted article states XBL Gold is required. But whoever wrote it didn't say "Back up the truck mate! If you need Gold then it's not F2P! You can't call it F2P so I ain't publishing this unless you take out the F2P claim." Lack of media integrity IMO.


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