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Kresnik said:

Well, firstly I'm sorry for the few Microsoft fans around here that this thread got derailed so quickly. It's never nice for fans of any group to have that happen.

Can I just clarify as a Sony fan, though: PS+ is in no way "free games". They are "excellent value for money rentals", but they're certainly not free. So your comparison there is justified. What these games should be compared to, however, are the actual F2P games on PS3. Namely DCUO (at the moment) and Dust 514 (coming soon), and any of the Playstation Home games. You simply need the console & an internet connection to play them - nothing else, and in that respect there is an extra charge for playing Microsoft's versions.

Of course, this brings up a whole other debate. Is anything really "free to play" when you have to invest in the hardware and have paid for an internet connection (mostly, perhaps you could take your console to a wi-fi enabled cafe with a TV and download them from there). Perhaps it would be better if they would be called something else, because "free" isn't necessarily true. If Microsoft's games are "Cheap to Play", then the PS3 games would be "Even cheaper to play".

Kowenicki's replies gave me a chuckle though, so thanks for that.

this. sony get RIPPED everyday here by the same users that are now moaning about this thread being derailed.