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ultima on 29 August 2012
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rocketpig said:
ultima said:
rocketpig said:
ultima said:

Edit: a quick google search revealed that webOS was released in 2009, Android 2008 (which had notifications from the get-go), iOS 2007. So that's another wrong assertion by you. Perhaps you're not qualified to be educating people on general mobile tech.

I'm not going to bother arguing with you if you don't bother to even quote me correctly and just want to defend Android no matter what. I didn't say Android had no notification system, I said neither Android nor Apple had notifications worth a damn until WebOS led the way with their notification system, which both Apple and Android later adapted for their own use.

Funny you should say that, because just in your last text you didn't quote me correctly, when, unlike you, I was perfectly clear with what I was saying. You, on the other hand, said, "They had an excellent notification system long before either Android or iOS came developed anything worth a damn." Besides being gramatically incorrect, that's also quite ambiguous. You said "a damn". That's quite a general statement, distinct from your latest claim that it was about a notification system only. In short, you're either changing what you said, or you have trouble using the English language. And, seeing as how you were able to say it perfectly clearly the second time around, I'm tempted to go with the former option.

But even your updated claim is incorrect. Android has had pretty much the same notification system since 1.0 (2008). WebOS was released in 2009. Not that this info matters much, but get your facts straight.

It was a typo. It's pretty obvious the word "came" shouldn't be there and I deleted it, I simply didn't see the word in time to avoid you quoting it. The phrase "not worth a damn" is a commonly used phrase in the American lexicon. If you don't understand it, that has little to do with my writing abilities. I was stating that, yes, Android and iOS had notification systems. Neither one was very good. Android has subtlely tweaked their notification system since Gingerbread, starting with Honeycomb. It looks largely the same but now it delivers more quality information and the user can now "swipe away" individual notifications... Much like the system WebOS had from the get-go. All in all, it's a somewhat significant improvement from what they were running in Gingerbread and previous operating systems. iOS's notifications were awful in the early days. They also adopted a similar solution and ended up using something that's a lot like both the Android and WebOS notifications.

I'm a Canadian, so there's no dialect barrier between us. I clearly know what that means. What I criticized was the ambiguity of the statement (or vagueness is perhaps a more fitting term). "They had an excellent notification system long before either Android or iOS developed anything worth a damn." There's no indication there that you meant that webOS had a good notification system long before either Android or iOS did; it actually sounds like you meant that webOS had a good notification system long before either Android or iOS developed ANYTHING worthwile. Which is clearly false, seeing as both predated webOS. Moreover, the statement that you apparently meant is also not true, because Android has had pretty much the same notification system since 2008. You're right that they added the swipe gesture and more info; but those are small improvements, not major redesigns to bring it up to speed with webOS.