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Squilliam said:
archbrix said:
Squilliam said:

The features of the WIi U are major unknowns at this point. Nintendo felt that the 3D in the 3DS was a worthwhile feature as well, however it didn't let them maintain their launch price for very long. I wouldn't count on unknown features and besides the best feature of the Wii U is likely brand and reputation.

How happy are you with PS1 level graphics? People were very happy with that too. I don't think that anyone is going to say no to better graphics at a similar price. Noone would buy a PS1 or PS2 for the same price as a PS3 so obviously visuals are a factor. People bought the Wii inspite of the lack of visual fidelity because it offered something unique which drew people in. What the WIi U offers is not nearly as unique as the WIi and half of the functionality will be copied with the Xbox 360 smart glass at or before launch.

I'm not talking about unknown features; I'm referring to the ones we do know.  Being able to stream your game to the controller to free up the TV... and back again on the fly.  Asymmetrical gameplay where one person uses the gamepad and effects the TV gameplay for other players.  Of course these things will not hold up if innovative ideas aren't there for them, but the point is they haven't been done before.  Furthermore, I think you may be putting too much faith in Smartglass' capabilities.  Can you display a full-fledged console game on the TV and a tablet simultaneously like the Zelda HD from E3 2011?  Can you even stream a full 360 game for play on a tablet at all?  So far, we've only seen the most basic functionality in common on Smartglass; play-calling in Madden, map screens... "half of the functionality" being shared between Smartglass and WiiU is a bit of a stretch to say the least.  And that's to say nothing of the fact that every WiiU owner will have this functionality so all games made for it can take advantage of this.


What is the point in freeing up the TV when you're in the same room as the TV? Most households by the time this becomes relevant will be able to free the TV regardless by streaming TV to their tablet or laptop. The PS VIta can do this too and that is a really popular and successful platform, it can even free up the TV and you don't even have to be in the same room.

Asymmetrical gameplay has not been proved to be enticing. You can't count these until they are hatched.

Do you realize that you answered your own question?  Plenty of people are on other devices while the TV is on for others.  My girlfriend is constantly doing things on her phone, tablet, or playing my 3DS while the TV is on a show.  Even my mom often plays her DS while watching programs in the background.  The WiiU will give people the ability to play a full-fledged console game in their hands on the fly if others enter the room for TV watching.  Same goes for watching Netflix, etc.  And who said you must remain in the same room?  

You can count asymmetrical gameplay as yet another feature that the WiiU provides that hasn't been done before out of the box for a home game console, which is why I brought it up in this discussion.  Whether it's a selling point remains to be seen, but it certainly has potential.