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oniyide said:
@forevercloud you cannot prove that quality suffered because of a game going MP, show me sources that say otherwise and we can talk. People were mad cause the quality sucked not cause it went MP and you cant prove it going MP caused the games to be bad, unless you have some Quantum Leap machine and you can go into an alternate universe where the games you mentioned were exclusive.

I see your Skyrim and raise you a Batman, Street Fighter, COD, Mvs.C3, GTA, JC2, etc. all games that are pretty much the same across their consoles. I love PS3 but the reason why the early games ran so crap because SOny decided to make some weird console that many complained it was difficult to work with, that has nothing to do with 360, which MS stuck to a more PC setup. Fact of the matter is there are more multiplat games that run the same than ones that run worse on PS3.

You do know Demon Souls has been out longer than Dark Souls right? THe fact that the sequel sold just as much in a shorter amount of time kinda proves you wrong.

We'll never get back to a PS2 era domination, not even WIi managed that. SO i would kill that dream right now, because 3rd parties wont allow it. Probably for some of the same reasons you mentioned

Aside from the good Doctor making a trip to another dimension, that point is literally impossible to prove unless you look at evidence and draw a conclusion. You have previously shown that you are incapable of figuring out a conclusion using evidence without a concrete resolution being provided for you by some nameless authority. It's also ironic though that you are completely capable of conclusively saying the ideas are wrong, in the instance that no conclusive yes or no is stated by said authority.

That's at least the feeling I'm getting from you. 'There is no conclusive proof, therefore, we are conclusively wrong.' There is so much wrong with that logic, especially when not only will you even 'entertain the possibility', you implicitly call people insecure. I'd like to explicitly say that's ignorant.

I gathered this just from your interaction with me. And here you are doing it a second time by telling cloud to "prove that quality suffered". To me that's enough evidence, if not conclusive, that I've pegged you accurately.

What I mean by that is...... I could not even prove to you earlier that content was cut despite posting industry trends, typical actions by the developer to save space, historical actions based on the number of discs..etc. FINE.

But let's flip that on it's side a minute. Even if I tried..... I could not prove that content...wasn't...cut. We have the words of some people against the words of others. Is that proof? No.

So why did you arbitraily decide that you were "right"? Especially when there isn't even a shred of evidence on your end! I know, I know.... you're about to say "I don't have to prove ANYTHING because YOU'RE the one making accusations". Close?

Do you now realize how ridiculous this entire argument sounds? Not yet? Look, you have put yourself in a position that requires no proof, denies all evidence unless it's conclusive (which is a standard that you've arbitrarily decided as a man saying "yes", when even cops don't arrest people that say "i did it"). ....

..and then you call people insecure. I mean, this is absurd oniyide. I implore you to reconsider, really, this entire argument of yours.