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archbrix said:
chocoloco said:
Lol, only a fool would want opinions from a group of people that only give out positive responses most of the time (Nintendo only gamers). This does not create an accurate picture of anything. What foolishness to assume everybody is in a cuddle puddle of happiness towards Nintendo.

Clearly, you're missing the point of what he's saying.  This isn't about irrational Nintendo fanboys crying foul because not every article is all sunshine and rainbows about their favorite company.  He's talking about a profound bias in the media to spin negativity against Nintendo - specifically the WiiU - and I actually believe there is some credibility to that.

Look at the recent fiasco from Eurogamer:  Purposely twisting the words of developers for their headline just to get more hits by insinuating that WiiU's power is (relatively) mediocre... when actually, if anything the devs spoke to the contrary.  And don't even get me started on Gamesindustry.biz or Pachter...

Another example was how the cable channels reported during E3.  I'm the first to admit that Nintendo totally disappointed with their press conference and deserve every bit of flack they received for that.  However, that's no excuse to intentionally shine a negative light on the WiiU.  

G4, for example, has their "closer look" bits during E3 where they feature a game and talk to the devs/publishers/PR people while showing the game and highlighting details.  But not a single one for any WiiU games; just a couple of very brief shorts from the show floor on Mario and Rayman.  Morgan Webb was typical in discrediting it every chance she got; first by saying, "I think it's current generation, let's be honest..." which, ok, whatever, but then when one of the guys she was interviewing actually interjected with how the Miiverse features could be considered next gen, her first response?  "Yeah, but, do you think anyone's actually gonna show up for that?"  One of the guys even said, "Well, they'll certainly be there for NSMBU".  It was as if she was determined to paint it in a negative light no matter what, instead of being objective.  Then later when celebrity Aisha Tyler spoke about her hands-on with ZombiU and how she liked the controller interaction, Kevin Pereira, dumbfounded, exclaimed, "You mean, it didn't feel gimmicky?".  Once again the media taken by surprise that many of the people who actually PLAYED WiiU and gave it a chance enjoyed it.

Spike TV was a similar affair as well:  Geoff Keighley was quick to criticize WiiU when it was made apparent that WiiU had the most people talking about it on their hype-meter; perplexed he said, "Well, that could be them saying negative things about it..."  Yes, it could, but way to show some objectivity...

Of course not every gaming journalist is guilty of this and I certainly don't want nothing but accolades through rose colored glasses.  But many of these media people are quick to ridicule WiiU simply because it's "cool" to hate on Nintendo, which is pathetic IMO.  And I believe that if Nintendo does indeed play their cards right, they're in a great position to surprise a lot of people with how well WiiU fares next gen.

I hardly think I missed his point. He clearly says where are the voices of the gamers and then practically asks for opinions of people who only play Nintendo games, which is  asking for rose colered glasses outlooks that do not at all show accurate opinions of a whole. I have not been paying attention to any of the media's outlooks on the Wii U you describe so I cannot talk of that outlook other than say I believee it will be a fair picture  of the people running the particular articles. A fair critique seems better than just trying to avoid annoying people and  just saying mostly complimentary things. As well, I do believe this site has a conspiracy theory gone wrong on the media. It is not a single minded animal with an agenda. Objectivity is a hard thing to create, if it is even possible, so I do not see the trouble. The trouble is trying to push off opinions you do not like and not being open minded that more than one company can and does create greatness and failures.