wfz said:
You say you understand the point of view of someone who thinks an embryo is a human, yet you continue to belittle it and mock it. That's why it seems you really don't... Again I'll applaud Kasz for taking a more netural objective look at the topic and not being high and mighty with his opinion, which is what you're doing.
You called Kasz' question loaded, yet yours wasn't? His was just as biased in the opposite direction as yours was in your direction. You are merely seeing things from your side of the playing field. You didn't state anything about the embryo, you're right. That's exactly where your question was biased. You kept talking about the woman and her family, drawing all attention away from the life inside of her and the consequences of it.
Your stance was basically "you're going to make this poor woman take this embryo to term even if she doesn't want to? You're going to make her suffer?"
That's very clearly written in a fashion to make people feel bad for saying yes. They're basically answering: "Yes, I'm going to make that woman suffer." That's a completely biased angle that doesn't involve the side of the argument dealing with the fact that those people believe the embryo is a human. If you don't see how you're being biased and loaded with your wording, then there's nothing I can do to help beyond what I've already explained.
|
I am going to step here as someone who is pro-life and speak up. I know, it is shocking that I would be considered this, because apparently by modern political logic, it is impossible to be pro-life and think GOP economic policy it bat loco and not based in any form of reality, and is geared towards the elite. Mind you, with myself, I am pro-life but consider the going for a ban on abortion legally to be a waste of time, which wouldn't really get anywhere.
This being said, one HUGE thing I see that is completely being overlooked here, by the said pro-choice side, is the fact that a human life is being argued to be lost. You have the case of not making a woman suffer vs the taking of a human life (It is argued that). The debate on abortion isn't even over the same issue, but yelling the sanctity of life vs the ability to control one's own body and do with it as you please. Both sides yell real loud, and there is no away to get any agreement here. For me on the issue, and I will go pro-life, the GOP's policies aren't pro-life at all. They are pro-birth, then fully go "you are on your own", unless you push too far, like with care for the elderly, because they would take a bloodbath politically.
But, both sides can end up yelling at each other, deluding themselves and not seeing bigger picture.
