richardhutnik said:
thranx said:
richardhutnik said:
Ok, this is the following, if I go with the GOP priorities on welfare, and the political views of the GOP on abortion issue:
* No abortions, period. Rape (incest as a subset of rape) is not an excuse to terminate the life of a child.
* It is not the role of the government to provide any form of welfare to anyone, outside of the elderly. The Federal government has no place providing any sort of prenatal care for women either.
Combining these two policies, the following is a reality: Women who got pregnant due to being raped will get no help from the government to help bring the child to birth, or to help care for the child afterwards. Heck, the government isn't even going to fund adoption support either.
So, how exactly can anyone, like the GOP, have a policy where women are forced to give birth on the one had, and also provide no resources to enable them to do that? How exactly is that pro-life? At best, it is a weak form of pro-birth, AT BEST... but there is no indication of that even be supported. It is a case of back-alley birthings... and I guess the newborn gets put in a dumpster and abandoned. But then again, maybe seeing this, the state can step in and put the woman in prison for considering this. So, maybe the best policy would be to put women who are raped in prison. They would at least get some health care.
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Just because they don't feel the government should be doling out welfare does not mean they themelves do not care. It mearly means they don't want the government being the ones to do it. Perhaps they feel their church is better at distributin welfare and helping people or tha they themselves want to help people. Aren't republicans known for donationg more of their money to charity that democrats?
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And you also believe in a complete and total ban on abortion, even in the case of rape? If so, defend the view that you support this view, of forcing a woman to give birth, but then proving no support in the process.
If you don't support this, or aren't Republican, then what I wrote on really wouldn't apply to yourself and you are more than free to say NO WELFARE. At least you are consistent.
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if abortion is wrong, its because the embroyo is a human being.
so at the moment of fertalization its human, it doesnt magically become non-human because the dad is a rapist.
being a human doesnt rely on who the dad was, or else we could kill all people who's dad were rapists.
also im on the fence about this, but i feel if the child has no parent who will take care of it, it is the responsibility of governement to intervene and help the child. i think that goes for all non working age peoplle/ minors. just like when kids have abusive or neglecting parents, child services take the kid away and they become wards of the state. but this goes for just children. i think think you would find almost all republicans in support of this.
