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richardhutnik on 21 August 2012
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kain_kusanagi said:
richardhutnik said:
kain_kusanagi said:
Really? Not only are you exaggerating, but you aren't looking at it from the right perspective. If unborn babies are humans then killing them is murder. The US government outlaws murder for obvious reasons. Welfare has nothing to do with the outlaw of killing. Your argument is pure straw man.

The argument has to be do with calling oneself "pro-life".  How can you argue the scenario I described is anything pro-life at all?  Welfare has to do with the case of being a party of life, which is what the GOP claims.

Good grief man. Let's forget for one second that most republicans are conservatives and conservatives prefer to donate to charities rather than pay taxes that go to wasteful welfare programs. Let's forget about that for one sec ok. Oh and while we are at it let's forget that what the republican party wants is to stop public money from being used for abortion more than an outright ban on all reasons for abortion. Ok so we've forgotten about all that. Now lets' talk about the government's role. It is supposed to uphold the constitution, protect our borders, and enforce the law. None of that has anything to do with abortion/healthcare or welfare.

None of us have a god given right to be taken care of by the government nor do we have a god given right to a free abortion paid for by people who don't like abortion. That's the rub man. People don't want their money going to something they consider to be the murder of babies. They would rather give their money to charities that do a better job of helping people in need then the government does. Ok, you can remember that other stuff now.

The GOP party wants an end to all abortions, period.  This isn't just a case of funding abortions, it has to do with actually outlaw women, who even can pay to have an abortion, from having abortion.  That is in their platform:

http://ontheissues.org/Republican_Party.htm#Abortion

http://ontheissues.org/Celeb/Republican_Party_Abortion.htm

 

So, combining your view with theirs, it forbids women who were raped from terminanting their pregnancy and requires them to give birth.  After that, laws of child protection forbid abandonment.  All along, the government does nothing to help, based upon your opposition to taxes.  At least if you are going to be Libertarian and oppose coersion, you end up opposing the GOP's view on this.