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lets get this straight...regular commodore 64...ie non semi console one was a friggin MONSTER fun machine to game on...we had to MAIL...aka snailmail games between friends or physically hand them to each other...then cracking came...then we all learned how to double side a 5 1/4 360k....omfg i feel old but damn those were good times...DAYS spent in front of a tv or pos comm monitor.