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ClassicGamingWizzz said:
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ClassicGamingWizzz said:

Yes and your point is ? did you spend 20 minutes building a quote to tell me a thing i know , i beat both of the games 3 times you know

still think is one of the best looking games last gen and with a great artstyle.


You just proved my point about peoples understanding of tech in tech discussion. This thread is discussing the technical capability differences not what you think it the prettiest has a great artstyle.

yes yes


"God of War only looks incredible to people who don't know what they are looking at and Sony fans"

 

now is this

 

"Final Fantasy X only looks incredible to people who don't know what they are looking at and Sony fans"

 

lol dude give me a break ...


I have to agree   to what he says.   Look at Super Mario 64's   Intro floating face  and compare it to the Ingame face of mario.    The same goes for Final Fantasy 10 or alot of Ps3 games like  HeavyRain   or look at Ratchet and Clank  they play 1080p videos with almost no compression instead of rendering the stuff in  real game graphics.  (they might use higher poly models  instead of video Im not sure here but you can clearly see that the game looks worse than the cutscenes.)
And btw he never said "Final Fantasy X only looks incredible to people who don't know what they are looking at and Sony fans"   and the only purpose of this was to make fun of him  very unchildish dude.

And God of War just looks good because people don't get its zoomed out.  Go ahead and zoom in  you will see how shitty the game looks like.  And the thing with the sony fans that was said   is kinda true because  no matter what you say they are always right. There is no way a Sony fan can be wrong.

I mean remember the WHO HAS THE WORST FANBOYS thread?  Guess who "won".  Just sayin.   (im not hating on sony or all of sony's fans look at my avatar please   I'm making fun of alot of those fans ego)

Look, OP post a thread about graphics , in ALL THE CONSOLES , i just post one game that i think was one of the best ps2 has to offer (did you see me comparing to others ? i said gamecube to me was the best ), you see people posting dreamcast pics too and no one jumps with pitchforks to them.

And now lets talk final fantasy, even when only the cutscenes are with those super graphics the game is amazing.

ign : Graphics 95
What Final Fantasy has always done well, this does much, much better. Only bits of the body language can't quite keep up, and that's almost lost amid the rest of the spectacle.

gamespot said this : Furthermore, you'll notice that sometimes the game uses extremely detailed 3D character models during dialogue, but in other instances (such as in battle), the characters don't look quite as remarkable. Finally, the lip-synching of the characters' mouths with the speech is pretty spotty. Nevertheless, these are decidedly minor points in the grand scheme of things, because Final Fantasy X is certainly one of the best-looking games of this year or any other. Its diverse, colorful 3D scenery is consistently beautiful to look at and often evokes a real sense of wonder.

That guy tells me to look at the the hands on the pic on my post, but then he posts omikron as one off the best on dreamcast !!! LOL

Then i found that gem the guy said


"God of War only looks incredible to people who don't know what they are looking at and Sony fans"

lol i ended the conversation right away, go to the review and see what people give to gow 1 and 2 graphics

 

now this :

 

"I mean remember the WHO HAS THE WORST FANBOYS thread?  Guess who "won".  Just sayin.   (im not hating on sony or all of sony's fans look at my avatar please   I'm making fun of alot of those fans ego)"

and you are bringing this why? can you explain who is being fanboy here? no one here mention "omg ps2 graphics are the best trololol " , i only mention ff10 and ff12 are games that have amazing graphics ON THE PS2  !!!  That final phrase on your post is ridicoulous . 

  I replied to you simply because instead of saying something useful you looked for a way to make him look stupid. With a quote where he says something not really  untrue about GOW.  Nothing else. 
And then you made up a quote so it seems like he said  "only Sony Fanboys like the graphics of FF10" to make fun of him which is just childish. Isn't it?


FF10 looks really good for a ps2 game especially in the year it came out.
THATS ABOUT IT   THATS THE ONLY MEANING OF GRAPHICS RATINGS.  Its just "how does this game look like compared to games on the same console when we consider ARTSTYLE and use of hardware."   <-- This is where your FLAW is. 

I mean why do you think some Wii games get a 9 for graphics and a better looking PS3 game that uses newer architecture and therefore new effectsgets a 7?


Horsepower/raw computing power has nothing to do with artstyle. 
Just because a game looks good and has  good artstyle doesn't make it the game that uses more ressources of the hardware or the game that pushes the limits. In this regard FF10 even tho a beautiful game fails to be a game that shows how much power the ps2 really has.

We are comparing the graphical capabilities of consoles not if a game looks more beautiful than another game. If a game is beautiful or not is out of question because well....  Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.  Artstyle is something that depends on taste but raw computing power on the other hand is nothing that depends on taste its pure objectivity. Thats the point. For me Wind Waker looks way better than Twilight Princess  but im quite sure Twilight princess has more polygons etc.


Again  I agree with you that FF10 looks really nice I never said that you were wrong.
I was only telling you the game does not push the PS2 hardware because most people dont get that they use tricks. To help this statement I added stuff NOT ONLY FOR YOU BUT  FOR EVERYONE TO READ.  Stuff like the Mario64 face. I added it to make it more understandable  not because I doubted your  intelligence or whatever. But so everyone that reads my reply knows what was ment.

I am aware of the fact that YOU know that the cutscene models look better than the ingame models.

I then came back to the GOW quote  and again explained why there is no real fatal error in what he said about GOW (you quoted it for a  reason didnt you? You either disagree with it  or you wanted to make fun of him. In case of the former I said what I said)

I never said anyone here is a Sony Fanboy I just tried to help his argument. I said that GOW looks good because its zoomed out. It's no candidate for GAME WITH BEST GRAPHICS  but no matter how often you say it some people wont get it.
And then to show that there is a reason why he said what he did I said that one cannot really argue with  real sony fanatics because there is no way  they will make a mistake or they being wrong etc.(which was obviously sarcasm because sure they can be wrong) 

And to undergird this and to show that its not just a few people thinking so  I talked about the ANNOYING FANBOY THREAD.   This was by no means intended to call anyone fanboy nor was it used in any other way but to say " HEY LOOK THERE IS ALOT OF PEOPLE THINKING THIS WAY  WELL ITS ACTUALLY MOST OF THE PEOPLE THINKING THIS WAY".

P.S. I have to agree that its strange for him to post Omikron on Dreamcast and then argue with you about FF10.
I just watched a Youtube video of the game  and Omikron seems to have some huge environments.  I think the game looks uber ugly and individual characters etc are really low on polygons (seem like  n64 models) But it seems likeyou can enter every building in the game without the need to load it.   So it might be contender for the MOST POLYGONS AT THE SAME TIME  or whatever.   Maybe he can explain why he mentioned Omikron  would be interesting to know.