happydolphin said:
Kasz216 said:

Exactly how serious, gritty and straight laced can a game about a plumber fighting a dinosaur turtle to save a princess of sentient mushrooms be?

The repeated plot over and over again more or less intentionally made the series more cartoony as bowser went from "Serious thread" in the first one, to ineffectual and jealous as shown by more and more failures...

and ESPECIALLY established by Mario RPG.

Essentially the repeated nature of the series established that this is some kind of "working norm".

Also... if such a thing bothers you... that's really more of a personal issue, then universally alienating

To quote CS Lewis.

“Critics who treat ‘adult’ as a term of approval, instead of as a merely descriptive term, cannot be adult themselves. To be concerned about being grown up, to admire the grown up because it is grown up, to blush at the suspicion of being childish; these things are the marks of childhood and adolescence. And in childhood and adolescence they are, in moderation, healthy symptoms. Young things ought to want to grow. But to carry on into middle life or even into early manhood this concern about being adult is a mark of really arrested development. When I was ten, I read fairy tales in secret and would have been ashamed if I had been found doing so. Now that I am fifty I read them openly. When I became a man I put away childish things, including the fear of childishness and the desire to be very grown up.”

Great post, but I will turn C.S. Lewis on the head to prove my point. Did he ever considered children as vastly different than adults in that they could just no comprehend adult concepts?

The children in Narnia couldn't understand why adults concerned themselves with needless things. That would be the likes of the pulp we are fed like the GoW games or the Batman and X-men craze and reboots, ad nauseam. I'm not talking about that adult. I'm talking about adult that children and adults alike can enjoy, case in point, like Chronicles of Narnia, an excellent example.

This isn't just personal opinion, I know there are others who feel as I do about Mario.

and yet clearly there are more people who feel otherwise, hence it's sales.  So it is really more of a personal problem.  I mean, bad example, but i know more then one gambling addict.  It's still a personal problem each person grips with.

Heck, look at all the internet love with the bronies.   As far as I can tell it's unironic, actually watch and enjoy said show like mostly.


Mario's childishness is really part of it's charm at this point.  Bright colors, ineffectual funny villians, the atmosphere more or less replaces what a deeper story normally would.

I don't see any difference between say Mario or Phineas and Ferb for example.  Tons of adults enjoy that show.  More then kids I think.

Mario IS the kind of game adults can, and do enjoy.  Just not one you personally enjoy.