More evidence that rights-based ethical systems have flawed foundations.

[HappySqurriel]

richardhutnik said:

Mnementh said:

richardhutnik said:

Pretty much anything that isn't simply resolved comes about when you have rights in conflict.  When everything is merely framed in context of rights, there is a lack of yielding or seeing a larger collective good picture.  In short, you can't build an optimal ethical structure on rights alone or even one based mainly on rights.

Rights are conflicting, yes thats very old wisdom. But that doesn't mean you can't build an ethical structure based on rights, you only have to prioritize them.

You could say the same about rules: rules are conflicting with each other. Even if they come from a rules-system, like the 10 commandments from the bible: you can always build situations where these things are conflicting with each other. So - that's your point?

Part of the point.  The other part is that rights-based ethics systems end up with advocacy groups arguing for certain rights, and a conflict approach to end up resolving them.  You win the conflict and gain the ability to exercise your rights, at the expense of others.  Because of this arguing for rights, on one wants a certain right to have lower priority than another one.  The battle is over this right or that being superior.  Libertarians place Liberty above others (even to the extent of denying other rights exists).  You will see progressives placing the quality of life of individuals above others, including property rights.   Conservatives will place the right to preserve tradition above others.  Individuals who are capitalistic end up placing property rights above every other right.

I would like to see examples of people arguing for one negative right at the expense of another negative right ...