darkknightkryta said:
Kenology said:
Not saying it'll fail, but rather it won't catch on. It's pretty obvious, and I'm not sure why you don't see it. You're argument that the 3DS is a downsized console is just plain wrong. SM3DL and MK7 are not downsized console games. They have no console counterparts at all. Their legitimate entries in the series and not spinoffs by C-level teams. If you don't want to admit that, then fine. And your Pokemon statement just goes to show that you know you're wrong but want to play dumb and argue for arguments sake. So I'm done!
When these games do nothing significantly boost the Vita, we'll revisit this convo.
Assassins Creed Liberation: spinoff by a C-level team at Activision releasing next to the real thing on PS3. No one is going to buy a watered down spinoff.
Call of Duty Vita: looks like a really poor effort by a C-level developer (Nihilistic) with only 4-on-4 online and is releasing next to the real deal on PS3. Who's really going to buy that?
Killzone Vita: This looks like a legitmate entry into the series and is developed by Guerilla. Not a system mover by any stretch. Killzone didn't move PS3s and it won't move Vitas.
Little Big Planet Vita: See Killzone above...
Tearaway: Best Vita game of the show, but unfortunately it's destined to be niche.
These games will sell to Sony/PS3 fans but will do nothing for Vita on the mass market.
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I never said those games will sell Vitas. I said the thought that the Vita shouldn't use "down-sized" console games and that the 3DS doesn't use them is pure and utter bull. Super Mario Bros. 3D Land doesn't have a console counterpart? New Super Mario Bros. Wii and Super Mario Land are the console counterparts. Mario Kart 7 has no console counterpart? Mario Kart 6 on the Wii is the console counterpart, Mario Kart 7 being a direct sequel to it. My statement about RPGs are wrong? Do you not know where RPGs come from? Ultima on the PC, Never Winter Nights, Boulders Gate, Diablo. Final Fantasy 1-3 on the NES, Dragon Quest 1-4. RPGs are rooted in console/PC, saying they're not is like saying platformers aren't. I mean, stripping out the story aspects of an RPG (In Pokemon's case) and throwing it on a handheld is exactly what your argueing against; taking a console game and down-sizing it. And you are done, you argued yourself into a corner. All your counter arguements are in my support and as I asked you before, what's your counter argument?
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Offcourse the 3DS has counter parts, which are similar. but guess what people still buy them because it is purely on 3DS
My whole argument around the free vita version is arond these spin offs.
If in future I can play a PS3 version of COD, AC, KILLZONE, Uncharted there is no need for me to buy the spinoffs mentioned above as my needs will be satisfied as I can now play them on a portable device. So the gamer wins but the developers of those spinoffs (which are purely used to milk extra money from people) loose out because considerable less will have a need for these anymore. Yes these spinoffs may be their own story and well presented etc.. but for some people it is as simple as IF i could play ps3 games on my vita I would not have the need to purchase these side games.
However my initial understanding was that this will not be a mandated thing. Now I know that 3rd party devs will have a choice if they want to release spinoffs, stand alone vita retail versions or offer a free VITA version iwith the PS3 copy. So in the end it will not be much a bad thing for the industry.
