Runa216 said:
I don't know why I try to share facts with people if they're going to dismiss them out of habit. as a self-proclaimed intellectual, I should know better. I DO know better, but there's a part of me that is always optimistic that sufficient evidence will in fact change people's opinions. And there's a difference between opinion and fact. my OPINION on abortion is very much positive (I'm a huge fan of population control), butI don't pretend that it's a FACT that the world needs more abortions. my OPINION is that Euthanasia is occasionally acceptable, but it's certainly not a fact that euthanasia should be legal. It's my OPINION that neutering your pets is a horrible thing to do, but it's not a FACT, in fact, I know there are medical benefits to it. it's my OPINION that declawing is a disgusting thing to do, but it's a FACT that the cat doesn't really notice much of a change. There are some situations where there are no facts to push an issue in one direction, but the ones I listed are. Circumcision, sexuality, nature, skin color, climate change, Evolution, guns, all of those things are undeniable facts, and yet people STILL insist on arguing. I didn't say anything about gun control, I said "Guns are designed to kill", and they are. Sure, some are modified to be nonlethal (which is awesome, I love nonlethal), but their original use was to kill. I should have clarified that I was refering to INFANTILE circumcision, not circumcision as a whole, and the other stuff is just fact. |
Except they weren't. Some are... some aren't.
Which you would know if you followed the research, rather then go with a vague "consensus"
Circumsicion leans towards being barbaric, I know I wouldn't have my child circuimised. There are some minor advantages though, and many medical proffesionals actually will suggest circumsicion still. It's still something debated in the academic world... largely seen not as barbaric, but mostly pointless with maybe some negative effects, the one that matters the most to guys likely is lesser sexual enjoyment.
For example of Pro-Circ research http://thestir.cafemom.com/baby/116633/New_Circumcision_Research_Is_Changing This is from 2011.
Climate Change, assuming you mean man-made climate change, has gone through quite a bit of research that if you followed it, wouldn't allow one to call it an undeniable truth. It's simply a statistical likelyhood due to the fact that the warming the models predicted.... hasn't really shown up yet.
Most guns... aren't made to kill people, some are made to kill animals, Some handguns are made to wound people for self defense... but most are made for sport shooting.
The only guns specifically designed to kill are ones modified to take special amunition or your bigger combat arms. Handguns CAN kill, but aren't primarily designed for it. While hunting rifles and shotguns were obviously not made.
They're like Bows. Most are made for practice or hunting and target practice, though you could kill a guy with one.
In general, intellectuals should realize, that if a true scientist lives by one code... it's that "There are no undeniable truths."
There is nothing holy. As scientists have learned time and time again. Even basic scientific consensus on simple things like matter have been shattered time and time gain. I mean... Sub atomic particles? What's that Einstein? Those can't exist.
Treating scientific consensus as an absoltue truth is NOT the act of an intellectual.
That's not to say you should listen to someone who has a nonscientific arguement. However pretending that there is a 100% chance that your right is a folly that's been made through out the ages.
It's espiecally dangerous when someone just sees a vague consensus and consider your mind closed afterwords ignoring new research. As seems to be the case at least, with you and circumsion.
