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HappySqurriel on 13 August 2012
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Tigerlure said:
richardhutnik said:
Tigerlure said:
I don't know if the OP's intent was for us to debate on voter ID laws specifically, but I disagree with most of them. I understand the premise of wanting ID laws, and if we had a logical way to do it that didn't fall on partisan beliefs, I would agree with having them. However, it's clear Republicans are using it to their advantage, and there simply is not enough evidence of "widespread" voter fraud that would justify these laws when so many could be disenfranchised from voting. If there was a way to get everyone ID in time before the election for free, I'd be for it.

The OP was about the subject header, on how the GOP's views are one where those on welfare and unemployed are lazy and they would rather they not vote.


Then on that point, it's pretty well known that the GOP views them as lazy, and those who are unemployed should quit drawing unemployment benefits and magically find a job. I wouldn't be surprised if they did try to take their voting rights away. After all, they've managed to go after the elderly and minorities already.

This was an interesting article I found on voter fraud.  http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/13/gop-voter-id-data-voter_n_1773142.html

That isn't a fair characterization at all ...

In Canada we've recently began reforming the employment insurance and the temporary foreign worker programs. The reason for this is simple, the maritimes are a region of the country with perpetually high unemployment and yet there are such large labour shortages that companies are constantly applying for temporary foreign worker visas. The temporary foreign worker program was designed around regions in Canada that have massive labour shortages (read: very low unemployment), and one of the key characteristics of it was that companies had to demonstrate that they were offering a competitive wage and were unable to find workers. The problem in the maritimes was that many of the people on EI earned nearly as much from EI as they would from these jobs, and they knew that they could find fisheries to hire them for 12 months after EI ran out, so there was no incentive to work.

It isn't necessarily "laziness" that is the problem, but that many welfare and employment insurance programs are poorly designed to motivate people to get back to work.