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Play4Fun said:
darkknightkryta said:
Play4Fun said:
darkknightkryta said:
--OkeyDokey-- said:
darkknightkryta said:
I still think Nintendo gambled wrong when showing off their third party support. It's not necessarily bad that Batman, Mass Effect, etc are getting ported over, but that's the problem: nothing new. I think once Watch Dogs, or the new Star Wars games gets shown off, most people can stop arguing (Assuming they get shown off).


You'll see old ports in any console launch window. I think the current lineup compares very favourably to the 360's initial third party offerrings (GUN, King Kong, NFS Most Wanted, some crappy Tony Hawk game and Ridge Racer...)

You misunderstand me, I know full well about the ports, that's not the problem.  The problem is that Nintendo has given no good faith for the future, there were two games at E3 running with higher spec PCs in mind and are most likely gonna look like that on the next gen set of consoles, not old.  Neither of them were running on the Wii U.  Even 1 game from someone would be good enough.  Nintendo has a good relationship with Square, they could have had the Luminous Engine demo running on the Wii U, atleast with downgraded character models.  Epic has abandoned Unreal 4 for the Wii U.  Nintendo themselves has shown off nothing with their games other than two tech demos, both of which pale in comparison to next gen tech demoes (Cryengine 3, Luminous, Unreal 4).  Like I know Nintendo is making a tight little machine just like the Gamecube, but put some good faith in something, they have a lot of developers use them!


1.  Cryengine3 runs beautifully on WiiU

2. UE4 games can be ported to WiiU

3. WiiU's GPU will be modern and be able to do the same effects as PS4/720 scaled down.


1. Yes it is, it's also running beautifully on the 360.  Will it be using that secret toad rendering?  Not until I see it.

2.  UE4 games can technically be ported over, but Epic isn't going to do it, and I doubt any publisher is going to invest in doing it themselves.  And we'll most likely never know how much of the engine the Wii U can handle.

3.  When I said "...tight little machine like the Gamecube..." that's exactly what I meant.


1. Not with the new features, it isn't.  It's called tesselation and GPUS have had the ability to do it for a few  years now and so will WiiU (even it if doesn't look as good) since the early target specs state that the GPU has a tesselation unit.

2. Why wouldn't the devs port games to WiiU? They hate money? WiiU is coming out first, will be the cheapest and will most likely have the largest userbase. Unlike the Wii, it will be able to handle next gen multi-plats so what reason do they have to skip it?

3. Well then, I guess WiiU won't have any problems with next gen multi-plats then. It will all come down to how it sells.

Because some of them just dislike Nintendo..stupid and childish, yes, but I´ve seen it happen way too many times over the years to see it´s not just some conspiracy theory.One would ask 'but would some devs/publishers rather leave money on the table than to port X game to a Nintendo system just because of some hatred for the company'?...and the answer would be yes...a truly WTF situation.

Nintendo is, at heart, a gaming company that got famous because of their arcade gameplay games (just like Sega, and Atari before them), much to the dislike of PC centric devs (there was the famous NES vs PC gaming battle in the U.S. back in the 80s, after the 1983 crash), and since so many of the Western devs that are working on consoles nowadays came from that background, I wonder what will happen...it´s been over 20 years...but it seems some of them (or many of them?) still dislike what Nintendo (or at least, the Nintendo that releases 2D Marios, Mario Karts, etc.) is about...the only gaming company, with arcade roots, that´s still a hardware manufacturer, and a successful one at that.

in a nutshell...I expect Western devs to support the Wii U much better than they did the Wii, but that support won´t compare to the one they´ll have in store for the next Xbox/PS4 (especially the next Xbox).

I´m betting, for example, we won´t be seeing the next iterations of Fallout and Elder Scrolls on the Wii U, as cool as it would be to have the U Pad act as a PipBoy.