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badgenome said:

Having a motive to choose something doesn't negate the fact that a choice is made. In the case of conflicting motives, there is the choice of which motive to follow: the desire to drink and smoke and fuck everything in sight, or the desire to live an ascetic lifestyle and rise above baser things.

According to your definition of free will, what would it even mean? Randomly choosing things for no reason whatsoever? How could such a thing exist?


Like I mentioned earlier, the purpose of this thread is not to disprove free will, but to show that the free will is never free from one's personal preference. Thus, you cannot hate anyone for commiting a crime since all it did was acting according to its preferences just like everybody else does every day. Hating them would be like hating someone with a different favorite colour than yourself, because you don't choose what to prefer.

That's why I prefer to call criminals unfortunate, and feel sorry for them (and, obviously, their unfortunate victims).