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badgenome said:
IIIIITHE1IIIII said:

Except sometimes choosing the less preferable options can also be the most profitable options. Buddhists are prime examples of this. In the end, they profit from disregarding/removing their desires.

But that doesn't preclude free will. If anything, it's a demonstration of it. Because someone may find it more profoundly fulfilling to not indulge themselves doesn't mean there isn't still a constant battle of will power to not do those things. They are exercising their will to do something that isn't easy.

An animal can't do anything other than what it wants to do, therefore it doesn't have a free will. Whereas a person can very easily do just what he wants, or he can - with some degree of effort - do the exact opposite.


If a person ever does something that is the exact opposite of what it wants, then there is something that motivated it to do so. Whether he is aware of it or not.

Most criminals probably don't want to rob banks but does it anyway because they need the money. Some serial killers may feel deeply sorry for their victims but does it anyway because they enjoy it too much and want to remain mentally stable (from its own point of view).

If people ever makes a decision that goes against their will, they do so because of the profits.