Time for gun law reforms in the USA?

[the2real4mafol]

HappySqurriel said:

the2real4mafol said:

HappySqurriel said:

the2real4mafol said:

i may have north korea's kim il sung as my avatar but that don't mean i want to live there, i'm happy in Britain. i'm a socialist NOT a communist (like America thinks, they are not the same thing). I believe that the greed of a few shouldn't affect the rest of us, it wasn't our fault they fucked up, is it? of course, it does anyway. Government should be there to help the neediest and offer basic services like healthcare and a good education, they definitely SHOULD not repress their people, that's what i hated about North korea and the former USSR. Capitalism is all good when everything goes well and everyone lives a decent lifestyle and has a job, but since the recession 5 years ago, so many people have lost what they had, it's just not right, it leads to higher crime and higher suicide, because money is everything. Your right, capitalism isn't bad but its not perfect either, as the few lucky people to make up to the top, fucked it because they got greedy. I mean to show how capitalism is flawed, lets compare figures, the US (a developed economy) poverty line is 15.7% of the population, with China (a developing economy) at 13.4%. Surely something is wrong there, the USA should have less poverty shouldn't it, if the American lifestyle is so much better than the Chinese

The problem is that you have to give the state power in order to "help" people, those that hold this power eventually become corrupt, and then this power is used or sold to benefit the individuals who hold the power ... This means that the more socialist a nation becomes the more it will turn into a communist or corporatist state.

Corporatism, not capitalism, was the cause of the economic crisis; adding more power to a government that is already a corporatist state will only result in large corporations having more power at the expense of individuals.

America's government is supposedly minimal and they, like the greed and power of money over the last 60 years has corrupted them, since both parties are the same anyway. While, in Europe that never happened, as the parties were distinquishable . The UK had several socialist Labour government and didn't corrupt, forming the NHS didn't corrupt us, nor did the other stuff Clement Atlee did. Governments gain power from the time they serve, not anything to do with socialism. we'll see how France ends up in 2017, when they hold a new election, we'll see if socialism helped sort out there problems. Socialism is about EQUALITY above anything, the government may be bigger, but it's to regulate not control

The United States government spending is 40% of GDP, in what way could that ever be seen as minimal?

Beyond that, how has the UK not been corrupted? Wasn't Barclays International just given an insignificant fine compared to the profits it generated through Libor manipulation? Didn't the UK spend over £1 trillion bailing out big banks? The UK is as much of a corportist state and the United States is ...

As for the rest of Europe, depending on how the Eurozone crisis resolves itself, I wouldn't be surprised to see many of the bankrupt nations move towards communism; while many of the stronger nations will become far more corportist.

Sorry i didn't know that, i just though they were small government, they talk like they are

Yeah Barclays fixed their interest rates and got caught, all their got was a small fine and earful from my government. They should be all sacked, new people should of been hired. We bailed out Northern Rock and some other banks in 2008/9. i guess so. That phrase is news to me though, something to do with corporations running government?

The US has been run by Wall St the richer it got, the bush tax cuts made it worse though

Well, Russia will most likely go back communist, the people they hate "tsar" putin plus communism is still big there. France, Germany and Britain will stay democratic probably, unless the economy went really bad. Countries like Spain, Italy, Ireland and Portugal it's hard to tell. While, Greece could go to Fascism or Communism both got 15 seats each out of 300 in the recent election. The EU's fucked eitherway, that's what greed does anyway